Divine Purpose, Timing and The Creation of Miracles with Bill Heinrich

Katische Haberfield welcomes Bill Heinrich, the 'Divine Purpose guy,' to explore the energetic pathways to success. 

• They discuss Bill's transformative journey from material dissatisfaction to spiritual awakening, and how understanding one's life purpose and energetic DNA can lead to true fulfillment. 
• The conversation dives into the importance of divine timing, the essence of being rather than doing, and the power of embracing possibilities over control. 
• Bill shares profound insights on detaching from outcomes, understanding love and fear as the only two emotions, and using energy to manifest one's true potential. 
• This episode offers a compelling look at how recognizing and aligning with your energetic self can profoundly impact your life and success.

Chapter Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to Infinite Life with Katische Haberfield
00:39 Season 13: Fascinating Guests and Divine Timing
01:44 Bill's Journey: From Material Success to Spiritual Fulfillment
04:18 Understanding Energetic Path and Life Lessons
08:07 The Power of Love and Fear in Shaping Reality
19:20 Creating Miracles Through Energetic Alignment
32:37 The Role of Divine Order and Life Lessons
35:56 Life Purpose and Expansion
37:24 Accountability vs. Responsibility
38:57 Detachment and Control
41:48 Energy and Potential
55:19 Real-Life Examples of Detachment
01:04:57 Conclusion and Final Though

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Transcript

0:00

Welcome to the Infinite Life with Katische Haberfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey, exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me, and please don't forget to like and subscribe. And most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste.

Katische Haberfield: 0:39

Welcome back to the Infinite Life with Kish Haberfield podcast. I'm your host, Kish Haberfield, and you are in season 13, where we've been taking a break from case studies and we have been talking with some of the most fascinating and interesting people that I have found on the internet today and this week our guest is Bill. Bill is somebody who I'm gonna call the Divine Timing guy, even though he has divine purpose guy, because we had already scheduled this meeting, this interview on Zoom for the podcast, and life actually chose not the date that we had scheduled, but chose today. So I'm gonna say that even though he's known as the Divine Purpose guy, there's some kind of divine timing in our automatic rescheduling for today. So let's explore with Bill, his profile and how his experience and his knowledge of the energetic path of success had led him to be known as the Divine Purpose guy. So your profile First Bill, success isn't always what it seems from the outside, from I speak from experience. I found success at a very young age. I was living in one of the most beautiful places on Earth, and from the outside everything looks perfect, but something was always missing. Surrounded by material success with everything in place, by normal standards, I found myself dissatisfied and nothing seemed to fill the emptiness inside. No matter how much money I made or how successful I was, I never felt whole painfully aware that something was lacking. I continued to try to feel the empty space I felt inside. Over the course of time, this feeling got worse, never better. No matter what I did. I remember it was almost 30 years ago that I was so miserable. I walked out the door to change my life and I never looked back. Since that time, I've experienced many ups and downs along my path of personal growth. At each stage, I've gained new perspectives, and those perspectives, in turn, created more opportunities for growth, more realizations, which has allowed me to see and understand the world with more insight and wisdom. And I'm gonna skip the next paragraphs and say, if you're listening to this. Then we both Bill and I know that you're seeking answers and a way to end your frustration, confusion, stress, and overwhelm. This is how we are one and the same, and that's what we're going to explore on the podcast today. So formally, welcome to the podcast Bill. Now

Bill: 3:10

Thank you very much Katische. So happy to be here.

Katische Haberfield: 3:13

where should we start with divine purpose, divine timing, and the energetic path?

Bill: 3:18

any question you wanna ask wherever you'd like to begin?

Katische Haberfield: 3:21

Okay, so if there are people that are listening to this podcast and they're saying, bill, I'm a bit like you, but in the reverse. So I'll flip the question.

Bill: 3:35

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield: 3:36

I have all the spiritual knowledge that I wanted to gain, or I think I do. I have a spiritual business. Maybe I'm a healer, maybe I'm a spiritual podcaster, and I have shunned the things that you look for in the material world. But on my spiritual path, I still feel something's missing because I'm resentful of the trappings of the material path that I have not gained in this lifetime. Where do we start to unpack that for somebody who's on the opposite path to your life?

Bill: 4:09

That's a boy, that's just a no one's ever asked me this question. This is really fascinating. But I talk about it all the time. First of all, your abundance is a direct reflection of the degree to which you're living in your life purpose. If you're, if you if, abundance isn't there, if the value isn't there, then e you're energetically out of line. Okay? And what I find is I've never found anyone who understands what their purpose really is. I have the ability to do a meditation and to give a person their exact energetic DNA Yeah. And right spot on. There's, seven, and it's the energies that flow through the chakras. It starts with the root chakra, goes to the crown chakra and it begins with the energy of divine compassion, then divine creation divine order, divine healing, divine authentic self-expression, divine truth and divine power. And we all have all seven of those energies, but we have them in different proportions.

Katische Haberfield: 5:23

Okay.

Bill: 5:24

two pe, no two people are the same. This is our uniqueness. And so anyone listening to this. You are not who you see in the mirror.

Katische Haberfield: 5:36

Okay.

Bill: 5:38

You are what you breathe. We are human beings. We are not human doings. It's about, it's only about who you're being, not what you're thinking, not what you believe that really matters because it's gonna block you from who you're being And the, code these energies. What, here's what happens is people are born and I struggled my whole life because of the, wisdom I have. Life never made sense to me. And I'm now, I've been around a while. Okay? And when I was young. It was there weren't even televisions. I remember when there were no televisions. Okay. And, I looked at life and life at what everybody was doing and what they were telling me. None of it made sense to me. Like I knew inside, no, this isn't right. You don't need to work. No, This is no, None of this is right what you're doing. So it was very, difficult for me. What I've learned is this is we all have life lessons. There's, 38 different life lesson paths. So when we're born, we are seeing life through a perception where we're wearing a blindfold and we're making decisions based on who we aren't.

Katische Haberfield: 7:10

No. Okay.

Bill: 7:12

that's how we see life, This whole void. That void of, life lessons is just, there's so multi-layered and there's billions of different things that could be affecting it, but they're all energies. Okay? The lessons aren't circumstances. They're energetic lessons.

Katische Haberfield: 7:32

Okay.

Bill: 7:34

So people go through life and they see, life that way. And then you're taught to survive and live in the physical, okay? everything about your purpose is nonphysical. All about who you're being, not what you're doing.

Katische Haberfield: 7:54

Okay. Yep.

Bill: 7:54

And and there's a language that goes with it. And when we talk about this language, and I'm gonna give you some examples of words that you can't define, okay? Yeah. I guarantee you can't define them. Okay? We will just start with love. You tend not define love.

Katische Haberfield: 8:13

No.

Bill: 8:15

It's what manifest because of who you're being. It's an energy that you bring to a situation. Most people associate it though with the physical. Anything to do with your physical life is going to take you to suffering, guaranteed.

Katische Haberfield: 8:35

Okay.

Bill: 8:36

Guaranteed. Physical life is about lack of clarity, hard work and suffering, and it'll never be any better than that.

Katische Haberfield: 8:45

Okay.

Bill: 8:47

Anything that's significant, that's fulfilling and purposeful is energetic, completely energetic and will have a profound effect on the physical, but it's all because of who you're being. So what I found is because of these lessons, because of these perceptions. People are just, they keep walking into the same wall with these lessons 'cause they just aren't aware that they've got them. And they're really focused on, oh, I do this and I help people. It's that doesn't matter. It's who are you being like, I'm here coming from a place of love to be of service, for the benefit of everyone involved, regardless of The outcome is irrelevant. The, outcome is not my business. outcome is handled by the universe. Just gonna be here in a, from a place of love. So this is what people really need to understand is if you want to be successful, you have to understand the energetic side of it. I'll give you a good example. I have a client that's a financial analyst there does, sells financial services. He had a, we were talking Friday, he had a client that called him that was gonna change. make some changes in his whole thing and go work with another guy. That's the bottom line. But what he told my guy was, client was that my client had been deceitful to him. It's oh, okay. my client was like, yeah, if I could have reached through the phone and got him by the neck, cause I'm not this, I can lose my license. This isn't, this is not, and my, it would never happen with my client. I just stopped him. I said, stop, don't let the victim energy run this deal. You need to bring the loving energy into this. Just clean it up. Regardless of what he's doing, regardless of what he's saying, you need to control the transaction. So the first place to look for anybody if they're struggling is defensiveness. That's the very first place to look. The reason I say that is because when you're defensive, you are protecting a story or belief inside you needs no protection.

Katische Haberfield: 11:20

Okay.

Bill: 11:22

Love needs no protection with love. The more you give, the more you get. That's the way love works, like attracts like. There's only two emotions. One is in our physical life and one is in our non-physical. Do you wanna guess what they are? There's only two. That's it. Everybody complicates life. There's only two emotions.

Katische Haberfield: 11:49

Okay,

Bill: 11:49

What do

Katische Haberfield: 11:50

so love is the non-physical and, lack or hatred or the opposite of whatever the Yeah.

Bill: 12:00

Fear. It's love and fear.

Katische Haberfield: 12:03

Fear. Oh yeah, sorry. Of course. Yep. Love and fear. Yep.

Bill: 12:06

That's at the basis of everything.

Katische Haberfield: 12:08

Yep,

Bill: 12:09

And, fear can only be found in your physical life, and fear can only be

Katische Haberfield: 12:15

yep.

Bill: 12:16

in your past you have to go to the past to create fear or this thing that people call the future, but there's no such thing 'cause the future's just your past thrown out in front of you. So it's, all your past. It's all your past, it's all your point of reference. If you're in fear, it's in the physical. And the basic fear that everybody has is fear of loss because there's innate understanding that we're gonna die and nobody wants to die.

Katische Haberfield: 12:43

Yep.

Bill: 12:44

we are afraid that other people are gonna die. So fear of loss is the, in the physical and the non-physical is just love.

Katische Haberfield: 12:52

Yep.

Bill: 12:53

Just love. So when you have stories inside you, because you've been in survival and protecting yourself your whole life. This is what's creating all of your problems. This is what's creating your lack of trust. This is what's creating your suffering. There is no story that needs protection, not when you're In a place of love, because it's okay to be you because you're different, and I recognize that. So I wanna know you for who you are energetically, wherever you are on your path. I'm not here to change you. I'm not here to do, and I'm not here to convince anybody of anything, okay? Anybody, just take what they want, throw away the rest. I don't care what you do, it's your life. You get to choose whatever you want. But that's the crux of having energetic, creating energetic success. And it is in fact all about timing. Our, our purpose, our dharma is all about timing. And our dharma's a very, fine line, but our dharma's only going to be understood energetically. In the physical. Never in the physical. We aren't physical beings. We're energetic being, when we die What, in the mirror is staying here.

Katische Haberfield: 14:23

Yeah.

Bill: 14:25

The energy's leaving. So the number one place to look is defensiveness, because you're protecting something. You're afraid to lose something, and there's a story inside you that's creating that. And we're free to change anything we want. Like it, we, can make anything up we want the, and the universe must deliver it to us. We're the only ones that can say no. We say no, N O the universe says no, KNOW.

Katische Haberfield: 14:57

Okay.

Bill: 14:57

to know you. the universe wants to know your vibration. It doesn't want to hear your story,

Katische Haberfield: 15:05

Okay.

Bill: 15:07

just who, how you're vibrating

Katische Haberfield: 15:11

And so for people who are, like I said, the opposite to what you, who started in the spiritual path, like they feel like they were the black sheep and they started out differently. Who may be living in that emotion of fear in the physical, and they've tried to use the energetic side. Is it in this blueprint that you mentioned earlier, and so I'm gonna get it wrong, that 38,

Bill: 15:38

the life Lessons.

Katische Haberfield: 15:40

yeah. Is it in that, that you find that you would shift somebody who's experiencing this

Bill: 15:46

No, it's awareness.

Katische Haberfield: 15:48

awareness?

Bill: 15:49

People come and work with me. What I do is help them create awareness, I tell my clients, all the clients the same thing. don't care about your, I could care less about your results. I don't care what happens to you. It doesn't matter to me, okay? Because I can't choose for you.

Katische Haberfield: 16:12

Yep.

Bill: 16:13

I will guide you. And when you come back next week, we're gonna talk about what's going on, what you've learned, you're stepping into your power, if you are, or what, we're seeing. Okay? people are they're just, so accustomed and so fixated on the physical part of life. And that's only going to bring you suffering, period. End of conversation. It's the best it can give you. I ask you about anything special Katische your life. Like what's a special moment? You're immediately gonna go to how you felt. It's the vibration that counts, and that's the way the universe runs. That's how you communicate with the universe. That's how you create abundance. That's how you manifest things. Everything is done with vibration. That's also how you demonstrate to the universe that you have the responsibility. You're spiritually responsible enough to handle all the wonderful things that you'd like to create in your life. You can talk it all you want. Talk is cheap, okay? Like people, you, you don't sit down with me and start telling stories'cause it, they go right out the window. I wanna know how you felt behind the story.

Katische Haberfield: 17:39

Okay.

Bill: 17:40

I wanna know over the real stuff. And the truth of the matter is, there's only one thing in life that's real. I. That's how you feel. Nothing else is real. It's all made up. It's all just your perception based on your past experience, and everybody sees it differently, which is cool. Unless you're stuck in the physical and you're trying to fit in, it's just not possible.

Katische Haberfield: 18:36

Yeah. So for you, because you seem a bit more like me in that. So I started off as a management consultant and a university lecturer in marketing. And so I've grown up with the, you develop a strategy, you put goals, and you go for results. And that's what you do with everything. You expect an exchange for effort put in. And so when you say to people who know, of course I should detach from the outcome, I should let their universe handle it. I understand that it's the feeling is the way that I'm supposed to change that. How did you go from having a results orientated focus brought up mainstream, I'm assuming business background. Correct me if I'm wrong, but to going, all right, so I put in all of that effort. I did what everything that I said that I wanted to achieve and I achieved it and I still feel shit.

Bill: 19:35

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield: 19:36

How did,

Bill: 19:37

out? How did it work out for you?

Katische Haberfield: 19:39

yeah. How did you get that awareness and then transform, alchemize it in such a way that it, it created this?

Bill: 19:49

because when, you do that, what you're talking about. Okay. What you do is you lead a life of control and manipulation.

Katische Haberfield: 19:59

Yep. Okay. I can say that.

Bill: 20:02

Everything's based on your expectation and the goal you're after. And I'm glad you're seated 'cause you cheated yourself tremendously because if you learn to create an intention, what you wanna create isn't a problem. Okay? If you want a big brand new house overlooking the ocean, like that's cool, but we're just gonna talk about the energy of living there, of who you're gonna be in it. When we understand, when you get the vibration of who you're gonna be in it, will bring that house to you and you'll have a deep appreciation and you won't care what it looks like 'cause it will feel right.

Katische Haberfield: 20:49

Okay. Yep. Gotcha.

Bill: 20:50

and when it feels right, it's right. And End of the game, that's the beginning and the end all summed up, boom, plain and simple. So it's all based around the energy. That's why visualizations are so powerful. But you don't wanna visualize expectation when you visualize an expectation, you're putting yourself in an extreme state of limitation.

Katische Haberfield: 21:19

Okay.

Bill: 21:20

It's oh no, I want this. It is gosh, the universe wants to give you this. And it's much more exciting to collaborate with the universe and see what shows up. Because when you work with energy, when you can detach, you don't detach from how it's going to feel. You, can smell the ocean. You're, up high, you've got a view. It looks, seems like you're on a cliff, but bluff or something, you can just, it's there and it just. The breeze and you're just really into the feeling of it. When you have those things, that's what will help it materialize and that's how you create miracles. And a miracle is just an unexpected event with a positive outcome. That's all it is.

Katische Haberfield: 22:13

Okay. I like that definition, unexpected event with a positive outcome.

Bill: 22:18

Something

Katische Haberfield: 22:18

And

Bill: 22:19

in and I can tell you some stories about miracles for myself and my clients that are just amazing.

Katische Haberfield: 22:26

Please do.

Bill: 22:27

there may, I have one client who's with me. The other part of this is when people work with me and they start learning who they are, we go through a process of where they gain awareness, and once they gain awareness, and then we work on integration, and then we go right to transension and

Katische Haberfield: 22:46

Okay.

Bill: 22:47

we're just in expansion. We're just working on expansion. So clients, they have a, they just have a tendency to stay with me a long time because we're expanding like crazy. And right now I've got four clients who've been with me. Uh, they're one-on-one clients who've been with me seven years, right? And it is very long in the coaching industry. I Con, I have no contracts, none. I don't have any of that.

Katische Haberfield: 23:13

Okay.

Bill: 23:13

You don't need it if you have a connection. Right? Because

Katische Haberfield: 23:16

yep.

Bill: 23:16

working from fear, right? But like this one client, very successful, three young daughters married nice home, and he starts working with me. He said, yeah. I'm like, so what are you Ryan? What are you gonna be creating? He said, we really don't like our house. We love her a lot, but we don't like our house. And I'm like, oh, okay. What are you gonna do? He said I I gotta take care of this and I can't do anything with it right now 'cause I've got this and that, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's okay. He said, you know what's funny though, is we were thinking first I said to him, I want you to do me a favor. Okay. Your thinking right now is eliminating just a possibility. Will you play with a possibility? Is there, a possibility that something could happen? Like you don't have to do anything, just let's just go with a possibility. Like why block it?

Katische Haberfield: 24:14

Yeah.

Bill: 24:15

You don't have to worry about creating it, but let's just allow the possibility to be there. Oh yeah, I get that. I can do that. You And it's like, when you do to the house, what do you want it to look like? What's this possibility we're talking about? He said I'll be honest with you, the across the street, our neighbor's house, they had three daughters. Their daughters are all grown, and it's just the parents there. Now it's an empty nester. Something like that would be perfect, I Okay. in fact, if we traded with them his life, if we traded with him, it'd be really cool kind of thing. Okay, so we're talking. We create the possibility. We're talking. He comes back two weeks later, he says, okay, this is nuts. My wife was out walking the dog, the neighbor wife was out there walking, and the neighbor's wife said to my wife we should talk about trading houses

Katische Haberfield: 25:04

Okay. Yeah.

Bill: 25:06

Of the blue. I said, and he just laughed. I said, gee, possibilities, what do you think now? He's okay, I'm starting to believe. I said, you're gonna look at it. We're looking at it this weekend. So they went and looked at it. What'd you think of it? He said, we hated it. I said, perfect, perfect. But you see how misleading we are with our limitations. However, that came to fruition like that. Now, six months, their house was torn down. And they, moved, they rented a place and they're building a brand new home. It'll be finished. In fact, in a couple of months it all just happened out.'cause just because he allowed the possibility. And like he's, when I talked to him last week he is still in my program. He's yeah he said, I'm, I'll be honest, I'm freaking out about it. This is a big house. And it's yeah, but it's, look at what it's worth. If you, hey, don't worry about it. If you can't pay for it and sell it, you'll make a ton of money. You, got a lot of possibilities. You don't, just enjoy it. Let's just see what happens. And this, all came about just because of the possibility. And what happens is, in the physical, we eliminate any possibilities. There's a three letter word that ends everything. And that word is how It kills everything.

Katische Haberfield: 27:16

And we've been trained that way, right?

Bill: 27:19

what's that?

Katische Haberfield: 27:20

We've been trained to go how,

Bill: 27:25

And you don't need to know how,

Katische Haberfield: 27:27

yeah.

Bill: 27:27

I'm going through a massive expansion with my coaching business. Like I'm pushing this to the hilt, Like I'm getting very loud and I like going, I'm like creating, going international speaking, and a variety of, but really big, right? That is what I'm in the process of creating right now. Energetically, have no idea how,

Katische Haberfield: 27:49

Okay.

Bill: 27:49

matter.

Katische Haberfield: 27:50

Yep.

Bill: 27:51

It doesn't matter. just the energy's there. I'm demonstrating the responsibility And we'll see what the universe drops off. Like it's gonna be cool, whatever it is. And there's, things you have to do, but it's a matter of getting, it isn't work. It's steps to clarity. If you can sit still and listen the universe and energy is guiding you I always say follow the energy. Follow the energy. if somebody's mad and upset about stuff, or resentful or whatever, the energy's just blocking it just because they've got those stories inside them and they're just so wrapped into physical life.

Katische Haberfield: 28:41

Yeah. Yeah.

Bill: 28:42

It's really sad to see. I've never met anybody that understands their purpose. I've been doing this 15 years working with people, never met anybody. I met a, number of people whose energy is close to it, but they don't understand it.

Katische Haberfield: 28:58

Okay.

Bill: 28:58

Who they are. They just fell into it, and when then when they understand it and I literally, the way I work, this creates a bit of a problem. I can change anybody's life in 60 minutes without guaranteed. Because the information is so and so true, so impactful when I say there's only two ener, two emotions. Be with that. Gosh, you're, is correct. are you hanging out? If you hang out over here, great things are gonna happen. If you're over on this side, you're gonna suffer. Now you examine your, I'm not examining your life. Take that and go examine your life. You'll come back and go, oh, he was right. It's just the way it is. Energy and vibration has no story. There's no story with it. It's just a vibration. It's pure truth. Anger is anger.

Katische Haberfield: 30:12

Yeah.

Bill: 30:13

Anger's a vibration of itself. All of these things are vibration of their own, and they're all either stem from fear or love.

Katische Haberfield: 30:23

And

Bill: 30:23

which ones you want to participate in.

Katische Haberfield: 30:25

yeah. And so for you, you said that you do this meditation that helps bring through that purpose. How did you get to experiencing that for yourself.

Bill: 30:39

it is so trippy. I went to, the many years ago gosh, how long ago was it? I'm not even sure. I went to a good friend of mine's seminar on Soul Reclamation, Andrea Hess, and at the beginning of it, she started talking about our divine purpose and divine energies and had this little piece about it and then went on. It was a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, when this was Friday night in a two hour session, and then sat all day Saturday, all day Sunday, would not shoot on all these other things. She didn't spend 30 minutes on this, but the moment she spoke about it, I understood it thoroughly. In fact, I was in a relationship at the time and the next morning we're driving back and I'm talking about it, Cindy looked at me, she said, what the hell are you talking about? I said it means da was like, nothing's been said about that. I just knew it just boom, by calling. And, so I then took the information and started playing with it with people and change their life like that. But it wouldn't stick, right? It'd be like, go, wow, that's really fascinating. Okay. And then energetically I, can take somebody and just change the energy, and just by doing that, it's what, happens is pretty wild. It's it doesn't stick. I'm not gonna be a psychic reader. Like, I'm gonna do something that's, to change somebody's life where they have complete control over their life, not something where I'm giving them exercises and things to do.

Katische Haberfield: 32:31

Yeah.

Bill: 32:33

I wanna work, I wanna collaborate with your soul on why you're here. And you can feel that. And when you feel it, you know it. Like I, I just say, here's what I get. the funny part about it is we have these seven energies. Three of them are very predominant. It'll make up 70, 75% of your, purpose. And each of those energies, when they're not understood, create penalties. So everybody's dealing with penalties with these energies'cause they don't understand them because they've been focused in the physical and they aren't using the energies for which they're intended. It's like getting a lot of rain. If you channel it and store it you put it behind a dam and create electricity, you do a lot of things. But if you're not, it comes down. It's just gonna destroy everything. And that literally is what happens with this energy. So when I go through it with people, I give them all the negatives and they go, wow, yeah, that, yeah, that's me. And your purpose is to do the opposite energetically,

Katische Haberfield: 33:46

Okay. Yep, I get that. Yep.

Bill: 33:48

but it terrifies you because you've used, like one of the, one of the energies and everybody has this is called divine order. Okay. Divine order is about harmony, balance, functionality, beauty, just everything just moves very well put together, very functions very well. It's just orderly. And like I know a woman that does taxes that I work with that has this, and people sit in front of her and melt because they feel safe, because she's so orderly and harmonious in the way she does things. And people are, oh yeah, we, whatever the IRS or whatever, it's, don't, we know it's gonna be fine with You They feel it, however, that have a lot of this gift run into massive problems if somebody's upset with them or there's any confrontation now. They think it's them logically, but it isn't. The energy breaks them up. The energy is what disturbs them because they're so harmonious in, the way they breathe and do anything. So if somebody's not happy with them, they'll do whatever they need to do to keep somebody happy because it's it's, I call it the Humpty Dumpty syndrome, man, they fell off the wall. They ju the egg is cracked. But, they think it, they, think it's just, oh, this isn't right. I haven't done good. So this energy is actually causing them to act very dysfunctionally rather than stepping towards the person that's has an issue and using the positive, calming, harmonious energy. And if they will step in with that power, everything smoothed out instantly. You can't block energy, you can block what a person's saying, but you can't block their energy.

Katische Haberfield: 36:03

Okay. Yep.

Bill: 36:06

There's a, you can see the separation there. So when you bring this harmonious energy into a situation, it just changes everything instantly. And there's so, there's seven different ones and there and then the, you then on top of that, you got the life lessons to, to understand. So, there's a lot going on, but when people understand it, when they understand it, they really, they do it and they go, okay, this is crazy. Like I did this and here's what hap I said, yeah, that's what happens, right? Because that's energy.

Katische Haberfield: 36:44

And with the people, for example, that you've worked with, say the people you've worked with for seven years and you had that, they did that initial analysis with you where you did all your meditations and you, worked out the energy and the life's purpose and the things that I need to be energetically opposite of and know they've, changed their lives. They've transformed their lives. Have you ever found, and again, I know this is gonna sound like the opposite of what I mean, but there is a kind of a belief out there that we get so far and we achieve certain things, and it's like your life purpose can change after that. Do you believe that any of your clients have changed their life purpose after a period of time of working with you, or do you believe that's

Bill: 37:37

what you're actually talking about is expansion,

Katische Haberfield: 37:40

right? Oh, okay. Okay.

Bill: 37:42

and that's where you see the change

Katische Haberfield: 37:44

Okay.

Bill: 37:45

And, what expansion is, that you have a higher level of awareness. You're less affected by your stories. So yes, the le your life continues to change and Move into higher levels

Katische Haberfield: 38:03

Yep. Okay. Yep

Bill: 38:04

You, feel more comfortable. So from the external, it could appear that way, but it's only expansion

Katische Haberfield: 38:12

yep. Okay. Good clarification.

Bill: 38:15

nobody's perfect,

Katische Haberfield: 38:16

Yeah.

Bill: 38:17

I'm not perfect, but I know, and again, the only thing in life that's true is how you feel. And that's what tells you. That's your radar system. That's oh, there's something not right here.

Katische Haberfield: 38:32

mm.

Bill: 38:34

there's some key ingredients in this, and one of them is accountability and responsibility. So you have to pick one of those. Which one do you wanna pick to live by? Go ahead and pick one.

Katische Haberfield: 38:49

Oh, I, I think the first thing that came to my BR brain was accountability, and then I went, oh, should I pick responsibility? But it's accountability was the truth of what the first word.

Bill: 39:03

So you're a victim, You're accountable. If you're accountable, you're reporting to somebody else. Who are you accountable to?

Katische Haberfield: 39:16

Okay. Yep, Yeah.

Bill: 39:19

I don't care what you think about me. I'm gonna collaborate with you. I'm gonna make a commitment with you. I'm gonna be responsible to that commitment, but I have no accountability whatsoever.

Katische Haberfield: 39:30

Yeah, I see that and I.

Bill: 39:33

responsible. Do you see the difference in the energy there?

Katische Haberfield: 39:36

Yeah. And I see that because throughout this conversation when you said you don't do any contracts and you don't care upon the outcome, there's that part of me that just went, how do you be like that? You know what I mean? Because of where I've come from, it's I've always come from the process of you have to be accountable for your actions, for your thoughts, for your client's outcomes, for everything. And then you are sitting here on the opposite side of the counter that and saying to me,

Bill: 40:06

Hell

Katische Haberfield: 40:06

don't have to be account. So I'll admit that's a foreign concept to me, because in my mind, and this is how I'm seeing the energy is wrong for me, it's like, how can you be a good ethical person if you don't care upon the outcome? Do you know what I mean? You can see my, flaw there, my, my victim, my.

Bill: 40:28

Because, I know something that most people don't know and I give a keynote speech. The name of that speech is that my life is out of control and yours is too.

Katische Haberfield: 40:41

Okay.

Bill: 40:42

You have no control over your life, you must be focused only on energy and what you're doing in the moment. And if that's good, everything's good.

Katische Haberfield: 40:55

Okay. Yeah I, would definitely say that I try to control things. Yeah. Control my output. Yeah. Control my output. Control my,

Bill: 41:03

What is it you're afraid of?

Katische Haberfield: 41:06

I guess the immediate words that I got was losing control. Yeah. Losing control. Yeah.

Bill: 41:12

You've already lost control. You don't know when you're gonna die. And there's a joke. You wanna make God laugh, tell 'em what your plans are.

Katische Haberfield: 41:21

Yeah.

Bill: 41:21

You have no control,

Katische Haberfield: 41:23

Yeah.

Bill: 41:23

right? But when you know, when you understand energy. Energy plays by a vibration, plays by a by different rules. And the rules are so clear. I've just, I've written a book, it's coming out very shortly called Clarity has No Story. I piss a lot of people off 'cause I'm so clear.

Katische Haberfield: 41:49

Yep.

Bill: 41:49

want the story Story.

Katische Haberfield: 41:52

Yeah

Bill: 41:53

Somebody say, Hey, do you wanna do this? It's I really appreciate the invite, but that doesn't fit in for my schedule and what I'm doing right now. But thank you. Don't you wanna hear it? I said, no, I don't need to hear it. I like, it. Doesn't matter if it's, baseball, cricket. I don't care what it is. I like, I'm, good where I'm at right now.

Katische Haberfield: 42:13

Yep.

Bill: 42:13

not good that I'm good'cause you want me to be in your agenda, I'm not going there. It doesn't fit right now.

Katische Haberfield: 42:21

Yeah. And I.

Bill: 42:22

just, and I don't care what you think about it, you can say whatever you want, do whatever. A lot of people leave me pointing their fingers at me saying I'm the one that did whatever. Because they don't like the dance I'm in, but my Dance is clear. My dance is clarity and love and it's Clear. It's, so simple and it's just so easy. It's really to some, it's, it took a while'cause it made life boring for a while.

Katische Haberfield: 42:51

Okay.

Bill: 42:53

If I'm not spending all that time trying to control everything, I got a lot more free time.

Katische Haberfield: 42:58

Yeah. And I guess also, bill, where and where my, interest in this comes from is also, so my training is in clinical hypnotherapy. And so one of the things that, and pass off regression therapy and spirit releasement therapy. And so one of the things we are trained to do is to find the story. And, find the emotion to heal. But that does say to the mind, what is the story? And so what you are saying is essentially the story doesn't matter. You've just gotta find the energy. And I guess that's where, the training that I've done so far is very much in line with my offline, my mainstream training as well. If I can Analyze my own self, and again, here we go, ly analyzing, I'm an expert at the mind and analyzing. Whereas energy is just purely energy. Yeah.

Bill: 43:57

from the mind. Yeah, the mind. The mind. Stay away from your mind is not your friend. We are so ignorant. It's just, it's hilarious. People are just so stupid. We all are. And if you'll put the boundaries down of your protection and have an open mind, you can create phenomenal awareness in life. amazing just how I don't know what percentage, I think it's in the upper, 90 percentile of everyone on earth is focused on getting to death safely. And that's it. They aren't living, it's all about protecting themselves to die. And they, there, there's no living in between, and that's the truth and they're living with a blindfold on making the decision on based on who they are. So when you look at the vibration, you get to the core of it and there's modalities that people work with. So you've got great modalities, which are a great front in the public eye of the work that you do, Hey, I call myself a business coach, right? I'm a. a wolf in sheep's clothing, and then I just come in and I have to, the first thing I have to do is make sure someone has the capacity to work with me. There's not a, this isn't for everybody. This is the real Deal. This is the real deal. I give a 100% guarantee you will be living your life purpose and you'll be doing it very fast. So it's a hundred percent money back guarantee, and no one's ever asked for their money back in 15 years. Because you understand who you are energetically, then you can make changes in your life. stories create energy. You just have to look for the energy and that'll take you to the story. And you don't even have to go to the story, because once you understand energy, you can go, like feeling that way. I'm gonna make a different choice. And the minute you make that different choice to stop controlling. Because you feel better. And as you see it, you keep doing it. You start seeing space opening up, and you'll see the stories start popping up. They're at the, county fairs, they have the whack-a-mole where you have a hammer and the mold comes up and that's what these stories do, is they come up. But if you see the energy this energy doesn't support me, this doesn't support my soul. This isn't an energy of love. This is an energy of fear. What the hell's going on? And the problem is, people don't have a path. They go, oh, this is woo And the, whole, that whole thing. But hey, your breath is woo. Your religion is woo. You go to church and you talk about heaven and all this other stuff. That's all in the non-physical. Let's, be real. The greatest example, all expansion, everything the universe is in a constant state of expansion. Like attracts, like that's, it's just constant state of expansion. And like the greatest example of that is the telephone. If you go back 40 years when the phone was attached to the wall and now it's gone to where I've got a computer in my back pocket, I push a button, you and I are on Zoom to each other in seconds. wait, no line, there's nothing physical about this except we're together physically and energetically. the connection is all a vibration through saddle, goes up. This is, and that's there it is. There's a classic example of how the universe works and you can participate in that if you want in life. And what it means is we are pure potential. In fact, I'm just, I just finished a new course. I'm introducing this kind of the cornerstone of my expansion and it's called the Peak Potential Blueprint. And I really like it. And the reason I like it is because I'm over on the other side of the fence. I'm over on the physical side. Potential is, people think potential's on the physical side when in fact it isn't.'cause they don't even know what the hell it is, 'cause potential's just energy, potential manifested is your past

Katische Haberfield: 48:37

Yep.

Bill: 48:39

because it's happened and Behind you.

Katische Haberfield: 48:41

yep,

Bill: 48:43

It's untapped energy that has mana that you have converted and tapped into.

Katische Haberfield: 48:49

yep.

Bill: 48:49

potential is just energetic. Your peak potential, believe it or not, is just another word for your life purpose. Because in order to tap into your peak potential, you need all the same attributes that I teach to live in your purpose, they go hand in hand.

Katische Haberfield: 49:07

Yeah, it's really, it's just really interesting because, I have been resisting. So for the last five years I have been doing as I said, clinical hypnotherapy past life regression therapy, spirit releasement therapy. And in the last six months I've been doing a lot of energy work, which I've been learning to understand, which has been very difficult for me to let go of, which is channeling their archangels and, learning how to work with them to just put myself aside and let that energy come through. And, yesterday, or last week, they said to me, we are behind you, not in front of you anymore. And now we hand over. To Mother Mary, but not Mother Mary, who she's be behind, beyond

Bill: 50:02

Right.

Katische Haberfield: 50:03

the avatar of Mother Mary mean you have to let go because you don't even know who she's yet. And you have to not be afraid of the energy. You have to step into the love. And for me, coming from yeah, co coming from the space of control scripts, folders, diagrams, charts. I do this, I get these results. It's, it's new for me. And yeah, so it's just interest. It's been really interesting for me to talk to you because it's yes, I can see myself, yes, I can see myself. Yes, I understand the answer is energy. I've been working towards this. And I can see that there's, they're like, here this is the next thing for you. But I'm like, I can't define it. Um, and

Bill: 50:54

you should, go through my course, and in fact, it's interesting because I've got, I got this hit just a little while ago, that I might be doing work with high level coaches also, to, really show you how to own your power. Right?'cause it's, look, you're being called to it, right? So you just have to surrender

Katische Haberfield: 51:20

Yeah.

Bill: 51:21

and, but. It's like you can climb the mountain or there's an escalator on the other side, and that's called the peak potential blueprint. You know what I mean? I, hate to be myself, so to speak, but it's, the truth is, I studied this, I know this cold, and when I work with people six months with me, you're, your whole business would change your, you'd have more clients. be flourishing, greater, all the tools you have and the different, programs and things that you offer are great. And, they fit for people because they can help guide. Some people need that to just get through the first barrier, to get through a barrier, but ultimately, you're just gonna go to energy. And what, I found is when you know who you are, energetically, Haiti bar the door, like this is. It's game over. It's just game over because you really, it's just that's me. Hello. Yeah. It's you. It's you. That's it. And you, when I work with somebody, they get to decide that, not me. I do give them some specific information and the guidepost, but I, work more on the integration. I, my expertise is in integration and how to maneuver and, how to you gotta learn how to put yourself in time out. Okay. get out of the way you're stopping it, you're blocking it, with these different things. So it's it just it, makes it fun. But yeah, it's, when you're there, uh, obviously, I. Hey, in expansion, you're in energy of expansion. So it's even more than divine timing that we've had this conversation, because it's, that's all there is, that energy. See, and it like, like if it was me, I'd be just, oh, let's go Mother Mary, bring it on.

Katische Haberfield: 53:36

Yeah,

Bill: 53:39

That's, it is just, it's so beautiful. The Merger of it, and the one thing you spoke about you have to understand that energy is, you, Mother, it isn't mother Mary. It's you and your ability to access a higher level of vibration that is part of you like. I was so miserable. I walked away from my life over 30 years ago and in my misery I'm like, this whole thing with God. And you there were days, it's ah just how can you do this to me? And now I realize I am God. I have that. We all have that energy. We are all one. And the more we allow it, the more we can participate in it. And it's free and open to everyone. This everything I teach. The funny part about it is you already have it. You have

Katische Haberfield: 54:46

Yeah. Yeah.

Bill: 54:49

I, you don't need to go get anything. I'm just gonna show you how you misunderstand what you have. It's that misunderstanding, that need to control,

Katische Haberfield: 55:02

yeah. And it's also, it's like this, it at one level, and then there's that part of you that goes, but I'm human

Bill: 55:12

Yeah,

Katische Haberfield: 55:12

and I, have kids to feed. That's that, that I know energy. I know that's the path, but I, he like, and it's the stopping the, blur and the

Bill: 55:27

But if you sit with it, you'll see it's just stories inside you and start just looking at those stories and seeing how you can adjust them. Like you can just, you can hear how candid I am about this, It's all, like you said, it's shocking. tell clients that I have no problem with that. I could care less what you do, right?'cause I can't do it for you.

Katische Haberfield: 55:57

Yeah.

Bill: 55:58

You,

Katische Haberfield: 55:58

Yeah.

Bill: 55:58

the other thing is, I don't really know what you need. I know. The parts you need, but I don't know which one.

Katische Haberfield: 56:07

Okay. Yep.

Bill: 56:08

You've gotta determine that

Katische Haberfield: 56:10

Yep.

Bill: 56:11

your whole background and I learn I'm it's like artificial intelligence. After we work together for a while, I know more and more Now I see it in play

Katische Haberfield: 56:23

yep.

Bill: 56:24

I see it in play, then we can move with it and we can really clean it up and I can point things out and how to do it. Like for instance, I just, one of my clients, they, uh, big company and they work in partnership actually with companies that raise money. And also companies that do big, the big high end seminars, personal transformation seminars. they bought, my client bought, they bought another company, they bought a and the whole thing didn't work out. A lot of money and they were supposed to make a payment, a big payment on it, uh, the first of the year. And he said we don't wanna make the payment. I'm like, oh, that's okay. You don't need to make it. He's what do you mean? I said you don't need to make it. It's just a choice. you wanna make it? He explained it. I said, yeah, that seems fair. He said what do I do? I said let's just send him a note and let 'em know, and let 'em know how you wanna handle it. He's we can do that. I said, 'em, of course, what are they gonna do? They may not like it, but we'll let them know where you're at. They'll come back to us. So we did, and this has been going on. It's really funny. It's now, and he just said, no, we can't make it. We're gonna postpone it for six months to a year. And the reason is because the. company they bought, they couldn't send out emails and get it going because the email a hundred and something thousand people on the email list had been dormant. And you can't just start firing out again. So they're building it up and they've had to change their trajectory, but it's, tremendously affected the business. he sent that to them and said we're just, we're gonna pay you interest and we'll pay you interest at 6% instead of a no. And said we, but we can't make the payment. So they were talking to the controller of the company that they bought it from.'cause these guys own a bunch of other companies that they bought it from. And the controller got back to 'em and said we aren't, you can't use our money for that percentage rate. We want this much percentage. And we talked about, my client said, yeah, that's good. I said, okay, good. Let 'em know. That's okay. But they said but, we wanna, we, you're just not gonna make interest payments. We want a payment with it. He said we don't wanna make a payment, but let us know. So here came the deadline. He sent him an interest payment. So now the owner of the company has now gotten ahold of him and said, Hey, we need to straighten this out. This isn't right. So we crafted a note and my client just said, here's what you know, where we're at with it. W we've been, we've, they've been making the timely interest payments to them, so they've been in line with the debt and they said, look, if you want it back, we'll give it back to you. We haven't heard back from him.

Katische Haberfield: 59:41

Okay.

Bill: 59:41

We aren't fighting. We aren't fighting. We're just, we're detached. We're just completely detached. And here are these big guys, this multimillion dollar company, and they just they don't know what the hell to do with it. We aren't there, we aren't throwing bombs at 'em. We're

Katische Haberfield: 1:00:00

Yeah.

Bill: 1:00:01

Here's what happened and here's the timing that's needed with it.

Katische Haberfield: 1:00:05

Yeah. So taking the energy is not a fight.

Bill: 1:00:10

no, that they're talking to somebody that's completely detached. In fact my client's wife was like, what's gonna happen with this? What's gonna, he is nothing. Like even my client was like, he's yeah, this is crazy. we're just completely detached, from a place of love. We're just being honest. Situation, I bought a house and I got owner financing on it. I got a house, I couldn't get a loan on it. asked the realtors, see if the owner would find, oh, I don't know. I said, gimme the owner's phone number. If they gave me the owner's phone number. I called him, oh yeah, I'll carry it for you. I said, I'll give you this much down. The realtors couldn't work it out, but I did.'cause I created the possibility they couldn't even think of it creating the possibility, they would've flubbed it Anyways, it worked out perfectly. The owner was like, hell yeah, I'll do that. Supposed to pay him in nine months. I got to eight and a half months and I didn't have the new loan and I had to come in with a $300,000 payment. But I sitting here going, oh starting to stress out. What am I gonna do? sat there, I said, literally just up the files regarding it and drove down to his office. I'd never met him. Went into his office. The secretary was there. She knew me because she got my check every month for the interest payment. Oh yes. And I said, I don't even remember his name now. Yeah, he's here. So I went in and. She, oh he'll, see you. I went in, hi, how are you? I said, Hey listen, I just need to speak to you. I can't make the payment. I haven't been able to get the loan. Now I know this is a big deal for you and I just wanted to come and do it with you face to face. You can do whatever you want.'cause I respect the fact that I have this commitment to you. I have no story to give you. If you wanna know some facts, I'll give them to you. But I'm not here singing a sad song. I'm just telling you the truth. He looked at me and he was like, I don't need the F-ing money. Just keep making the monthly payment. No contract extension. We didn't sign anything. We didn't do anything. Just keep making the payment. And a year later I got the loan in Pagan. Yeah. And these are the things that happen. When you can be detached and you can just you let go of the results. You just, it's just the energy that you come in with. And it people just, what you're doing, and I know that, you know the world's a mirror, but what you're doing is you're presenting this new energetic view of themselves to them And is deeply, touching. And this is how these miracles get created. Like

Katische Haberfield: 1:03:02

Interesting.

Bill: 1:03:02

the real, they're the real deal. It's, this is real. I could tell you many, of those, I just In fact, what my client, a young guy just had a baby son, his first son Friday, 25 years old, Wynn bought a house with absolutely no money and he just was just starting out at insurances. He's flat ass broke, right? And he put the deal together on this house like he. He wanted to buy it, to talk to the people, and he couldn't get the mortgage. He went back to him. He said but I could make payments. I don't know if you wanna do that. Here's my situation. If you wanna do it, I'll pay you for sure. But Let me know what you think. They called back two days later. Yeah, we wanna sell it to you. We think you're a nice guy. bought the house, but he came in and told me, I was like, that is, he used everything that he learned from me.

Katische Haberfield: 1:03:52

Yeah.

Bill: 1:03:54

He was completely detached from the outcome, but he created the possibility He created and he was fine with the possibility. Whatever happened, he was fine with, so this is what we do all the time.

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:12

Yeah.

Bill: 1:04:12

Very real. You're being.

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:16

yeah. And I can see that they were great, examples. I can see how to shift that into that possibility because yeah that, they, that made it much more tangible for me. That example. That was really good. Thank you.

Bill: 1:04:29

Like us missing the first appointment,

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:30

yeah. Yeah,

Bill: 1:04:32

Hey, I messed up. I messed up. I got no problem with that. Do you still wanna meet? It was my fault,

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:43

yeah.

Bill: 1:04:43

all. If you said no and you were upset, it'd be okay. I'm good with that. But you're like, oh no, just reschedule and it'll be fine.

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:53

yep. Yep.

Bill: 1:04:55

Right? It just diffuses everything.

Katische Haberfield: 1:04:58

Yeah, it does. It's,

Bill: 1:04:59

A, anything that comes in my life, I'm responsible for

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:03

yeah.

Bill: 1:05:03

anything. I want that responsibility.'cause if I don't have it, guess what? Somebody outside of me has caused it, and that makes me a victim.

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:16

Yeah.

Bill: 1:05:17

I'm not gonna play the victim role.

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:23

Yes. This bit, this is bit,

Bill: 1:05:25

want,

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:26

sorry.

Bill: 1:05:27

I was gonna say, I just went through that with a, another client Friday where I, I don't know if I mentioned it in this conversation where one of his clients said he was deceitful

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:35

Yes.

Bill: 1:05:36

all upset. Yeah, I think I did mention it and I'm like, don't let the victim run the deal

Katische Haberfield: 1:05:41

Yeah.

Bill: 1:05:43

detached from your feelings. Let's handle this quickly and professionally and the guy's saying, oh, send me an email and then I'll answer the email and I want an answer to this. And I, and my client's I'm not doing that. I said, good. Send it back and say, no, you gotta get on Zoom with me. Lemme know when you have time, let's just send 'em a nice note and we'll take care of it.

Katische Haberfield: 1:06:03

Yep. Yep. Thank you so much for your time today. When did you say your book was coming? Your next book is coming out.

Bill: 1:06:13

I'm not sure it's, I've gotta check with the company that's publishing it for me.

Katische Haberfield: 1:06:18

All right. What?

Bill: 1:06:19

Clarity has No Story is the name of it. My, I have another book on Amazon right now. It's the Seven Levels of Truth, which actually goes through everything I do in my coaching business. It's in the seven Levels of Truth. Truth. The Seven Levels of Truth are your chakras and the energies that run through them.

Katische Haberfield: 1:06:37

Yep. Perfect. All right, so I'll put all of that in the show notes as well as a link to your podcast. And just really wanna appreciate you and thank you for your time today. I've really enjoyed opening my mind to the possibilities.

Bill: 1:06:50

Wonderful. It's been a great conversation. It's been so much fun. I really enjoyed,

Katische Haberfield: 1:06:55

Thank you. Namaste.

Bill: 1:06:56

your, I hope namaste. I hope your audience gets a lot out of it.

Katische Haberfield: 1:06:59

They will. Thank you. Thank you.