Talking to the ghost that attached to Katische's heart. (Afterlife communication with James Denis White)

Imagine walking in a cemetery when a ghost attaches to your heart. It hurts, and you need to contact a friend to help you remove the ghost.  This happened in real life to Katische. She contacted her friend Megan to talk to him after he crossed over to find out what happened, and why he attached to her heart.

In this session, we discuss Denis's strict personality, his military background, his struggles with his identity, and his time as an Earthbound spirit. Megan provides insights into Denis's remorse over his family relationships, his death, and his experiences before crossing over with the help of a different medium. Tune in to understand the intricate details of Dennis's afterlife journey and the lessons he has been learning.

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Transcript

0:06

This week, we, uh, listening to another session with Megan Jones, Medium Megan Jones, as we attempt to connect with Denis in the afterlife. If you were listening last week, you'd listened to the session where we crossed over Denis, as he followed me home from the cemetery. He refused to cross over at the time that I found him in the cemetery. And attached to my heart. I happen to have a session with Dawn. And because she's such a skilled communicator and medium herself. I asked her to kindly cross him over. Because it was a little shaken from the experience. So if you haven't listened to that episode, It's just a short one, go back and listen to that. And then you can come and listen to the afterlife discussions with Denis.

megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1: 1:29

I'm, I, right now I'm feeling a male coming through. Good. He feels strict stern and. Yeah, he definitely, he feels like just really like, I said, like really strict, really just things have to be done this way. Very orderly. Definitely not one you'd push around . Okay. Kinda my way or the highway. Okay.

Katische Haberfield: 2:30

And is he somebody that I have crossed over?

megan spirit releasement during mediumship 1: 2:35

Yes. Yes. Okay. So I've seen this name somewhere on your list, so I don't know if this is, they're just throwing that name to make a connection to that person, or if this is who they are. But I'm seeing the name or Dalton, and I know that's like a middle name or something on that list, but, I'm not sure. I just wanna, I wanna mention it in case it's relevant. Hang on. And it also could just be the D, Sometimes they throw a name so that I, Can I catch a letter? Was that their middle name or is the D from the middle? That's, Yes, that's the name that's coming in. But like I said, I don't know if this is actually that person or if they're just connected to that person. Okay.

Katische Haberfield: 3:59

Sorry, I wanna ask is a specific question which will help me identify, did this person attach to me at a c. Yes.. So I'm guessing we've got James Denis White. Okay. Who I've just been spending the morning doing research on. Probably some ER questions. Yeah. It's weird the way that because we have to validate differently, the information comes to me and thinks that they know that I would reference. And there's not a whole lot I would reference. And I've started picking up on that as we've done more sessions, is they'll give me things that they know. I can say that you'll basically puzzle it together. So that's why I was like, it could just be the D that they're trying to get. Okay. So this. If we're gonna go with identification and he needs to give us some help. Now this is the boy that Harry, not the boy, the man that Harry said that I had to go back to the cemetery define and all that. Harry, do you know what I mean? Now you got the D originally?

Megan Jones: 5:13

Yeah.

Katische Haberfield: 5:14

Okay. So this is James Denis White and I went to the cemetery looking for the letter D and then found James.

Megan Jones: 5:20

And ah, yeah. So he's bringing us back full circle.

Katische Haberfield: 5:26

Yep.

Megan Jones: 5:28

Cause he gave us d last time too.

Katische Haberfield: 5:30

Yep. That's all he gave us to start with. And then he attached to me and we did that video with Dawn, where I crossed him over.

Megan Jones: 5:37

Yeah. This is definitely him. I'm feeling like all this is like a yes. It feels like a yes in my heart space.

Katische Haberfield: 5:44

Okay. All right. Now I have been researching him this morning, so I want him to tell me something. That he knows that I've just seen this morning in the documentation. Cause I know they, they can see what I've been doing. What have I downloaded or looked at or found interesting this morning or something that he can tell me in the documents that I've been reading as an identifier? First he's saying that there's something with his name. There's something particular with his name. I also feel like he might have a shared name with someone, like a family, like his name was passed on. But I do feel like he just keeps bringing attention to his name. So I don't want to assume what he means by that, but he definitely is bringing attention to his name. There's something that he shares with me cause he know what he shares with me. If it's him, something very specific that we share in common. Yeah, he's not bringing it up right now. Let's see if it just comes. Let's see if it comes through. At the more that we talk. Yeah, let's just talk. It's just something that I noticed and I, when I noticed it, it's I was like, Ooh, there's gotta be some connection here because this is one of those dile moments when I noticed something on his record. But yeah, let's see what the story is and let's see what he has to say. And then if it's not him, it's not him. But as soon as you said that strict personality it's I felt the, because of the military vibes, right? Yeah. There's definitely mil military bobs just like that that very disciplined kind of personality that he's showing me.

Megan Jones: 8:44

It also feels there's def, there's also like a mean streak. And that he has, or that he had, and I don't know. It feels like that definitely grew the older he got especially in the afterlife for sure. Like before he was crossed, but it just, Yeah, he feels very, I don't know, not approachable, if that makes sense.

Katische Haberfield: 9:23

Okay. Not approachable. Okay. So if he's not approachable, then

Megan Jones: 9:31

but he is wanting to talk to us.

Katische Haberfield: 9:33

He's wanting to talk to us.

Megan Jones: 9:34

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. A lot of times they will show us that because that's just who they were and they want us to know that. Okay.

Katische Haberfield: 9:49

One of the things that I would like to know is that I noticed that he is born at the same era and the same time, and fighting in the same war as the other military gentlemen that we have been speaking with, but on he would be on the other side. So they were on not the other side. No, they were, they, These were the other ones were all British soldiers fighting in the uk and he was British, born in Australia, British, and then fought on behalf of the Australians. And so I'm just trying to see, there's, I feel like there's some connection between him and the other guys, whether he knew it or.

Megan Jones: 10:49

It does feel like there's a connection, like he is making me feel like you're right. That there is a connection.

Katische Haberfield: 10:56

Especially it feels especially with George. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. George particularly yeah, I haven't sat down and analyzed the battalions that they were all with and maybe they're in the same battalion. It's the stuff that I'll do later on. But yeah, I just wanted to, see if a name came up and is he wanting to talk to us about his time in the military or his time as. He spent a long time just as a normal civilian married and all that sort of stuff. What's the most impactful thing that happened in his life in terms of his experience? Is it the military stuff or is it the, being in a normal person trying to live back in normal society when you're not in the military anymore?

Megan Jones: 11:47

A little bit of both. He's saying he was definitely his words cut from the military cloth. But when it feels like he had to, it feels like there was some kind of discharge. I'm not, it doesn't whatever the, reason it I it, feels like it was out of his control that he didn't he didn't want to leave the military, but he had to, is how it feels to me.

Katische Haberfield: 12:56

And so it was very hard for him to try to live in a normal life especially because he feels like being part of the military. He felt like that was part of who he was. It fit his personality. It, he liked the structure, he liked the discipline. He liked the, brotherhood. So I feel like when he was, when he had to leave the military, that was a big, turning point that caused him to harbor a lot of anger and a lot of resentment. What ? I feel like he was gay. Oh, okay. Even though he married a socialite?

Megan Jones: 14:02

For sure. I feel like that was never he, never admitted that out loud and not even to himself, really. The military kept him busy. Kept his mind busy. It kept him distracted. It kept him away from home, kept him away from his family, kept him away from people that he knew outside of the military so that he just, he was able to just hide it, but not feel like he was hiding it. He felt like he had to hide it more when he was around people outside of the military. He hid it from the people in the military, but it felt like it was more work for him to do it around like people that he knew outside of the military, if that makes sense. So that was also really hard for him, is having, to hide that and pretend to be someone he wasn't, and he began to really just hate himself.

Katische Haberfield: 15:30

Okay.

Megan Jones: 15:32

He's making me feel like he just he had a lot of anger that he took out on other people, but it, really came down to him hating himself.

Katische Haberfield: 15:41

Okay. On his grave, it just uses the words Father. He's buried with his wife. And I can't find any records of children. So was he distanced from his children? There are children, but then they don't it's not, it doesn't say beloved father of, and then four children. And in comparison to other memorial stones that I've seen, there's no affection that the children have written for either parent. It's just.

Megan Jones: 16:17

He's making me feel like that was more of a money thing.

Katische Haberfield: 16:21

Ah, okay. Yeah. Cause more words, more. Yeah.

Megan Jones: 16:24

Yeah. That's just how I'm feeling. But let me go back and ask him about his relationship with his children. He's making me feel like there was definitely, like he was, he was a support, he was supportive and he. He was there, he wasn't absent, but he wasn't there at the same time. Like he wasn't there emotionally. There wasn't a lot of affection and a lot of compassion that he would give his children. Instead, he brought more of a, of that military, strict, disciplined that kind of environment to the home. I am feeling like there was a substance abuse issue. I feel like he was drinking. I feel like the mom, while she cared for the children and she did hold more compassion and love for the children, she was also in his words, very weak and would not stand up to his authoritative personality. When he put his foot down that's, how things were. And that the kids would they would witness that, that struggle between her wanting to do things differently, her wanting him to be more compassionate and understanding with the children, whereas he was. He, wasn't, and she would just bend and just let him have his way. I'm not sure how many children there were, but I'm feeling like three or four. I'm definitely feeling two boys that he felt the closest to. I'm feeling like the girl would've gotten the, least amount of attention from him because he felt more connected to the boys. Like he could shape them into being that military man, and they could take follow in his footsteps.

Katische Haberfield: 19:45

Does he have any comments about that he hasn't already told us about his death and then the period where he was an Earthbound spirit? Before we move on, he just wants to say that that was also one of his biggest regrets is the way that he treated his children. Yeah. Because when we were crossing him over, we also got, There was a great regret around the relationship with his wife. He was very sad about that. At the time, we felt the grief about that relationship. Yeah. He's It's like he knows that he just took all of his own stuff out on them and he knows that he treated them poorly. And he did love them. Even his wife, even though he said that he is, gay. But like he still loved her. She was his best friend. And he can tell that he, it doesn't feel like there was like extreme abuse, but there was, it was definitely on that line where he, would cross the line and he would get very angry and he would yell and definitely take things too far. And he does feel a lot of regret and a lot of remorse for that. That's something that he does feel like he has released and, forgiven himself for. Because now he knows that it was just the anger that he was harboring towards himself that caused him to react that way. And without reducing or excusing the behavior. Do, does he feel that was a sole personality based issue or just something that a lot of the men who went to war came back with? He's saying it's, both. He's saying it's definitely soul driven for him and learning to accept himself for who he is and love himself for that. And not be afraid to be himself. But the military did not help that, that Would take people that already struggle with that and would, tend to make it worse? Okay. Because you're taught to follow, you're taught to obey, you're taught to be a certain way. You're taught to do what you're told to do, not ask questions and not be different, because when you're different, you get killed. Yeah, that's key one. Okay. So what he's, ready to move on. So what was the next question? The question is I just wanna touch on the experience a little more about death and then remaining as an earthbound spirit followed by crossing over the, usual end of. Death crossing over and life lessons, that sort of stuff, but specifically wanting to understand the, death and the cemetery experience and the crossing over experience for him. So I just keep getting pressure in my heart space. That's very attached. That's where he attached to me, but yeah. Did he also have heart issue? I'm feeling like it was actually cancer. Oh, okay. And I don't really normally come out so bold with, saying that, but, . It just feels right. The way that he's making me feel is that he basically killed himself and his stubbornness and his anger and his unwillingness to, to change and, to accept himself. And when he was making me feel this way, I just felt like I just had the thought of cancer manifesting because of that. Okay. But he did give me a feeling in my heart space, so I wouldn't rule, I wouldn't rule out a heart attack. It doesn't, it doesn't feel like a heart attack. It just feels heavy. Cancer is what feels right to me. Or just some kind of, disease is what it feels like. It just feels like disease. Yep. He is making me feel he's make, he's just making me feel like he didn't wanna cross over, that he dodged he dodged. He's ma he's making me feel like since he was like alone with himself, he didn't have to like, pretend around other people to be someone he wasn't, even though he was still pretending with himself. So being Earthbound was, it was kind, it feels like it was like a, relief to him a little bit because he was alone He's Oh, I don't have to deal with anybody. But at the same time, there was a lot of, time for him to just, Really sit there and reflect over and over again with what he did wrong, and that created that remorse and that guilt and that shame that he felt about the way he treated his family. Definitely. Sorry. But he feels like that, Like he feels like that, that he needed, that he's making me feel like he needed to be earthbound. That was, he needed that time alone to get to that softening to that acceptance of the things that he had done so that he could eventually move past that and forgive himself, is how he's making me feel. What were you saying about Harry? Harry got the distinct. Feeling that he wanted to be left alone was Harry's comment was that he didn't interact with him. Yeah, yeah, He's saying on like a soul level that's what he needed. Like his soul needed to be alone so that he could really be alone with himself and face who he was and, just learn to, accept himself. And he doesn't feel like he ever really did. And while Earthbound until he was able to be crossed over. But it does feel like that time did give him the opportunity to at least see the, what his actions were causing. Of, not accepting himself and, the things that played out because of that unwillingness to, to be himself and to, express himself. He saw the actions that he caused. There's also a lot of shame and guilt about not being able to love his wife the way that she needed him to love her. While he did love her, it was, he knew that it wasn't the way that she loved him. And so there was a lot of, shame and guilt around that for sure. He is making me feel like when he attached to you that you were able to soften that anger and that remorse and that guilt and that shame that he felt. Interesting. Yeah. I was wondering what it feels like for somebody who's in Earthbound spirit form. Like, how do they attach I don't know, is he able to explain the mechanics of it? Like one moment you're floating around near your grove and the next minute bang, you're physically part of somebody's self. Do they attach, What do they attach to and how do they make that conscious decision? I don't know. He may not know either. It may just be that boom happened. He says that. He's saying that there's there's a link that has to be acknowledged by the Earthbound spirit, whether that is an emotional tie or a family tie or similarity. There's something that the person has that the Earthbound spirit is drawn to and it basically he's making it feel like, it makes them feel. More grounded, more safe, more just more Okay. Than what they felt on the outside. He's making me feel like there was something specifically like with you that reminded him of his wife and so he just went for it. making me like he's making me feel like at time he didn't really know what he was doing either, but he was just like, just made that decision. To go for. First time I've asked the question, so I just take whatever answer comes. Yeah. He's just saying like they, once they, find someone that they just feel, they feel some kind of connection to, they can make the decision then to attach. They're, they want there to be some kind of connection, similarity something that, that makes them feel either more safe, more alive, more connected to who they were, which explains why they don't just attach to anybody yet, why it's not a common, human experience. Yeah. Because he's making me feel like if there isn't something like that, They're just they're, gonna just continue to feel bad They're gonna continue to feel the same way, and more than likely worse, because that person has nothing for them that makes them feel safe, grounded, like they were. He is making me feel like he attached to someone before. Oh, and I'm just unattached. He's making me feel like he attached to a soldier before. Ah. It feels like the soldier died and that's when he left. Oh, okay. So he was unable to cross over at the time that the soldier crossed over or he didn't, still didn't want to cross over? He didn't want to. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's making me feel like on it, he's making me feel like the soldier actually made him feel even worse because he was able to balance his life more than what he did. and so he feel he just made him feel even more guilty. He is making me feel like he wasn't with the soldier for, very long. I'm not sure what that means in terms of Yeah But he, it doesn't feel to me like it was long. He's bringing up Harry, so I do feel like he like he knew that Harry was there. It feels like he knew there was several, other spirits there. But he, again he, didn't want to be anywhere around them. He, Yep. Kept, kept to himself. He just, I don't know, I don't know what this means, but he showed me, It looks like a scroll. I don't know. Just maybe something for later.

Megan Jones: 36:41

Was there a Dark Force entity anywhere around, because he just brought that up too.

Katische Haberfield: 36:56

I haven't listened to that video for a while, so I'll have to go back and check out At the graveyard or in,

Megan Jones: 37:10

It feels specifically around the time that you would've found him. Okay. So probably I would think at the graveyard. Okay. They could have been. I was so busy looking for him that I didn't pay any attention, but that's an interesting thing to note, to go back and deal with. He's making me feel like he actually liked to go by Denis, so that Yeah. Keeps given the d Yeah he, didn't go by James. It's just because his name is officially James, that I keep calling him James, even though he prefers. Yeah. A personal question. What does he think? How did he experience being a Christmas Eve baby? He says it was a pain in the ass. He said that Everybody always forgets your birthday . It's my birthday too. That's why I was like, the first thing I noticed on his records was that he had the same birthday as me. Not too many people in the world that are born on the 24th of 12th. Yeah, he's like laughing about it like, He's Yeah you, know the feeling like you should know that most people forget your birthday and if they don't, then they still can't afford to get you anything because it's too close to Christmas. Yeah. It's a very specific choice of birthdays. We choose our birthday. So it's it's very specific to choose to be that date, I think. Yeah. He, is saying he's trying to tie that into like also the self-worth card because you get forgotten, you get overlooked. And that, that can play into the feeding of that. Is is how I feel about it. So it's like from the moment that you're born, you already start being overlooked and and pushed to the side for one of the most important days to you. So he's making me feel like in life he he really did hate his birthday. Yeah. And is there anything else that he'd like to tell us today, or has he told us everything? We've, he, his time is the earth being an Earthbound spirit really is very much equivalent to his life review. So we've heard a lot about his lessons because he seems to have learnt them while he was in that state. Is there anything that he wishes to comment about what's next for him or Anything else of any, description whatsoever? How would you like to finish up today? Before I asked him that, he just showed me a big, like bird Okay. You might have, I feel like that might be a connection to when you crossed him over. So you might have seen something like that. You might have to go back and look, but it just feels like it's in relevance to you, like a sign or something that you can take with you. Yeah. An eagle. He's making me feel like he is soul is still working on the same. That while he was able to come to that realization in his passing he needs to be able to work through that in an incarnation. He needs to be able to learn to love and accept himself no matter when his birthday is. his words no matter who he loves, no matter what kind of family he's born into. Matter what he faces. He needs to learn to be himself. And that he's, learned a lot that he's not quite done learning that how he's. It does feel like he's already incarnated in other lives to work through this, and it does feel like he's still got a long way to go as far as learning this. Yep. It's a long journey. The journey of anger and self hatred. Yes, it is All. Thank you very much, Denis. See you remember to go. You Denis, not James. He's just like winking. All right, thanks. Have a good day. Take care. Bye bye.