The Infinite Life: Consciousness Raising, Spiritual Transformation

Midlife and Spiritual Transformations with Rev. Dr. Paul Meckes.

Katische Haberfield Season 10 Episode 8

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Reverend Dr. Paul Meckes shares his spiritual journey which he believes started before birth. 

  • In this conversation Katische and Paul explore how life events, such as losing loved ones, can act as catalysts for spiritual awakening and deeper self-understanding. 
  • Paul emphasizes the importance of following spiritual guidance, staying present, and finding one's path during moments of crisis. 
  • The episode underscores the transformative power of spirituality and the ongoing journey of self-discovery.

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Introduction to The Infinite Life

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Infinite Life with Kati Pepperfield. I'm a quantum soul therapist, and I'd like to take you on a transformative journey exploring the mysteries of the soul, past lives, and infinite existence. Through over 60 regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions with interesting human beings, uncover what it means to be a human facing duality on earth whilst embracing the true nature of reality, non-duality, and unconditional love.

Meet Reverend Dr. Paul Meckes

SPEAKER_00

His name is Reverend Dr. Paul Mekes. Paul, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00

Reverend Dr. Paul Mekes is a duly ordained minister, a metaphysician, first through the Institute of Metaphysical Humanistic Science, and then through the priesthood of the Order of Melchizedek. With almost 30 years of academic studies and research, he received his PhD in metaphysical science, summer cum lauda, and ordination in the spring of 2014 under the authority of the Institute of Metaphysical Humanistic Science of Florida, Sarasota. While in his doctorate studies, Paul founded and headed the Claremont Paranormal and Metaphysical Research Society, a noetic science coalition and network of diverse scientific disciplines. Paul's mission being the scientific research for the advancement of further knowledge of consciousness, the human condition, paranormal and anomalous phenomena has gained attention with the spiritualist and scientific communities as a revolutionary in its investigative approach in the field. Reverend Dr. Mekkees is the founder, host, and producer of the Conscious Radio Network LLC that broadcasts a weekly podcast series which examines a wide range of scientific research on consciousness, spirituality, earth mysteries, anomalous phenomena, and the ever-changing factors of the human condition. 2023, Reverend Dr. Mekis was nominated into the Marquise Who's Who in America, Inclusion, in which is limited to individuals who possess a professional integrity, demonstrate outstanding achievement in their respective fields, and have made innumerable contributions to society as a whole.

Paul's Spiritual Journey

SPEAKER_00

Now, I wanted to invite you along today because I've had a season so far examining spiritual awakenings. And in particular, we've been focusing on what midlife throws at us, whether we define midlife as our 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and how we can for women, we look at hormonal changes and how that can bring out extra sensory perception, it can a different understanding of where you are. But for most people, it's a lot of the holy heck, am I actually halfway through life? Am I starting to question mortality? What have I done? What's my legacy? What am I doing here? Have I done anything right? All of those big questions come out. And after everyone has just listened to your profile, what I wanted to ask you was what has your experience been? Have you always been on the spiritual path since birth? Or did you have an experience in your teens or your midlife, as we call it, that has led you down the path um to where you are today?

SPEAKER_02

I feel that everybody has a midlife crisis at some point, somewhere. As far as my spiritual journey, though, I believe it started before birth. There's a lot of things I experienced growing up that I couldn't explain the a connection with spirit. I grew up as the only child. I had no direct siblings. I was actually I would have had a sister, but she she had she uh died long during birth. It was yeah, and uh I figure okay, and then I had some stepbrothers and stepsisters and stuff, but they have actually passed since then. And when you start, I I think when you start to look at certain certain things that happen with in your life even before you can even remember, you gotta step back and take a look at these things, these events that have happened that you obviously have no control over, piece things together and make a puzzle out of it, and you start to realize maybe this is some sort of a divine purpose, maybe there is some sort of connection. Was I meant to be alone? Was I meant to be the lone wolf in this lifetime and take things, take this life by the reins by myself and fight this army myself, fight this war myself. Okay,

The Catalyst of Divorce

SPEAKER_02

and growing up seeing and experiencing the paranormal, the spiritual, it didn't really happen, it didn't sink in until uh my first and last divorce. And I started to realize wow, I there's there is some purpose here, there's something I've got to do. And I started reaching out to a lot of my friends that were spiritualists, practitioners, in all different faiths, from shamans to preachers. My even my stepbrother, who had passed many years ago, he was a Catholic preacher. And then with asking all the all my friends that were in the shamanic spiritual practices, and this is some I think this this is I had a calling, I had some sort of calling. It was like I I need to get connected, I needed to get grounded and connected to this ultra world, this ultra part of the universe that I have felt my entire life. I just didn't I wanted to understand it, and I don't know if that was a a midlife crisis to speak, but it seemed like it. The divorce was everything that was going on was just it I it was more of a confusion. Who am I? What am I? Where am I? And then it's it it became a path, a journey from then to now, and it never stops. It never stops when you open up when you open up any type of door, you better be ready, especially when you're working with spirit and you're working with the divine. You then start to realize, yes, this is a path, this is a direction that I am meant to go, because more doors start opening. Um

Exploring Mediumship and Spiritual Practices

SPEAKER_02

working with spirit, I then started to actually before that I got into mediumship and started working with a lot of I would say a council, but it's more of a school, uh um they call it um the modern spiritualist movements, which started back in the 1800s, but then it became really really popular, especially as pop it's popular more it seems to be more popular today, especially worldwide. Now, people are like, why uh seances or uh mediumship and sitting down and connecting with spirit and giving messages for people? Parts of the world. There's certain certain areas here in the United States where it's considered really taboo. Oh, as the devil, you can't talk. This is work that Christ has done himself. Um I'm calling I'm going in so many different directions. I'm actually standing on point.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, you're right. I wanted to ask you a question with the the divorce as the catalyst, because that was my catalyst as well. Why do you think that for some people, and in your experience, why do you think that was your catalyst? What about that opened you up to the it's now I'm going forth?

SPEAKER_02

I think at that point when I felt that I had connected with somebody that I wanted to be with for the rest of my life. And it's more you're thinking that the universe is going, this is a failure. You failed at this. Something so simple, something that you would think that is close to the heart and close to the soul and close to your being, that this thing failed. Why would the universe if this is something that we're all social beings? Why did this fail on me? Am I a failure? Is the universe a failure? Is God a failure for me? Is what's happening when something that close to you, close to your heart, close to your being, close to who you feel you are, fails on you, you start to question everything. And even though that wasn't really a midlife, it's pretty close to it. Not even not quite 50 yet. I was like, okay, there's something what's going on. That now you start to then I started looking in, looking inward. What is happening? What is really start analyzing the world yourself. Um try to better yourself. And it wasn't like I wasn't like there was something bad going on, it was just it was and I started realizing hey, it was it was the wrong time. We both did it for the wrong purposes, and uh it wasn't the right time, and spirit, nah, just move on. You just accept it as it is, you guys were not, it was the wrong time, it wasn't the right time. I wouldn't say it was the wrong time, but it wasn't the right time. You have a mission, and when spirit's like, and even she told me, she even told me you've got so much stuff going on, you have a mission, you have something that you have to really do, and I'm standing in the way. Wow, okay, and I kept telling myself, you're not standing anywhere. I want to bring you with me. I want to bring you with me on your journey on this journey, but she wasn't ready for that.

SPEAKER_00

So, yeah, okay. So that was going to be my next question was were you spiritual and were you able to be, were you a medium actively whilst you were married, or was that only in the opening afterwards?

SPEAKER_02

During before and during.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. We were both doing some stuff together a little bit. We would we would pick up on certain things, and she would do this, I would do that, and she even had has a history of uh extraterrestrial contact and has some stories, and I helped her along with some of the stuff that she was battling with when it came to the extraterrestrial aspect, getting her getting getting her into contact with the right people who can help guide her to find out what's really going on. What is this? But yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And your um your what is your strongest sense perception? Are you clear audience, clear sentient, clear gussian? What's your strongest or most powerful sense that gives you your knowings?

SPEAKER_02

Depends on the situation. Most of the time it's clear cognizance. There's a quick knowing, there's a a really quick like if you ask if someone's in meditation and you ask a question, you ask the universe and God the question, suddenly you you get the answer. It's oh, okay. And normally it's not the voice, I don't hear the voices, it's the knowing, it's the feeling. Sometimes I'll hear, and a lot of times I'll see. If I'm doing messages, is I'll see these symbols, I'll see the person, I'll see the individual, or I'll see them trying to do certain things, give me symbols and stuff, and then I'll try to interpret it. I believe that's an important thing, is a lot of spirits can communicate with a medium, but if the medium doesn't give you, yeah, if the medium doesn't give the spirit world the inf the type of information like, hey, this is the way I can pick up the information, deliver it this way. Then I I realize that if you're talking to spirit and trying to get information from, it doesn't matter what language, it does not matter. They will give you the information in the best way possible for you to receive it and deliver it.

SPEAKER_00

So with the opening of these skills, had the professional side come in.

Professional Life and Spiritual Calling

SPEAKER_00

Were you what were you doing before as a career?

SPEAKER_02

I've always been the engineer type, very analytical, very structural, very disciplined in the engineering aspect. So I without giving out specific employer information, which I normally don't, but yeah, I w I work in the in the public sector and help with building um planning projects, construction projects, or projects with with the local entertainment uh businesses and stuff like that. Theme parks in general.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02

And keep the show going, so to speak. Just keep everything running, keep things moving forward, make people happy. As in general, people like, what exactly is that? They're like, I just I keep the effects going, keep everything going, people happy. The show doesn't go, people ain't gonna be happy.

SPEAKER_00

Right, yeah. And describe to me this uh this urge, this calling, this vision that you had something to do. How did that unfold for you? How did you follow the breadcrumbs or the clues to try and help you answer your own questions?

SPEAKER_02

Believe me, some of the yeah, and some some of the questions are still being answered. And believe me, when they're not gonna give you, they're not gonna give you the whole pie at one time. No, it's it it definitely, and the universe isn't you you can keep asking, what's the meaning of life? And you're just gonna get trickles because if you if you knew all that all at one time, what's the point? Why would you be here? There is no point, it's the journey. And when I was going through my doctorate degree in metaphysics, I had started a paranormal group, uh Claremont Paranormal, here in outside of the Orlando, Central Florida area. And I was always interested in that. Who's not who's not interested in I don't like to use the word ghost hunting, but paranormal investigation or anomalous research. Because I was always interested with the engineering mind and the technical mind, always interested in the investigative aspect. And using all the toys, all the bells and whistles and stuff. That's fun at first, but then you start to realize that it's not as a medium, as an inherent medium, it's a why am I using this? All I gotta do is speak to them, ask the right questions and speak to them. You don't need lights to let them know you're they're there, they're everywhere. But I I originally started the group as the case manager, so I had no choice. I had to go in and pull some in pa do the investigation, open up the cases, and uh do ask the questions, pull all the data, historical information from either the person or the property. And uh then I'd bring in mediums. That's where I started meeting a lot of the people. A lot of the a lot of I wouldn't say industry as a bad word. Industry. It's not really an industry, the field. So met a lot of people and really good scientists and and investigators that had their own way of doing things. And then that the investigation aspect, the novice part of it, the using all the machines and stuff like that. It's fun that went away for since then, and then I started getting into just the channeling, getting into actually channeling uh spirit and consulting people and giving readings to uh the church I was with. Actually, this was yeah long before that's about a year or so before the whole COVID thing happened. Joined a church, came in as a uh a student medium. Actually, I was a student medium on the books for about 10, almost 10 years, not quite, almost 10 years. Knowing what's that?

SPEAKER_00

Why so long?

SPEAKER_02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe it takes that. I stepped away from it a little bit. I didn't stay, I didn't keep with the book work.

SPEAKER_00

There's book work?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, there's yeah, it's a book. There's classes you gotta go to. You gotta actually meet up in person. Okay, you sit in a circle, and the reverend will give uh a certain part of the class giving some information on spiritualism and some of the historical aspects, and then we sit and then do a meditation, and then we do a reading for somebody you either pick a person in a circle to do a reading for, or just whatever get you get, you deliver, and then we close the class with a meditation, and that was like a weekly thing, and um but then I stepped away from the the general paranormal investigation that people see on TV, all these you know paranormal ghost hunting shows and stuff, and decided to take another direction and um just work with people as a consultant, uh a spiritual consultant or spiritual advisor.

Launching Conscious Radio Network

SPEAKER_02

And during that process, I was told Spirit said you need to do a radio show. Radio show. You need to do a radio show, you need to have your own radio show. I'm like, wow, okay. That's that's a big request to put on on the table. And I'm like, okay. So I back in 20, was it's actually 2014. Back in 2014, the end of that year, when that happened. I don't remember where when it came out. It was either a dream or kind of a day thing. When you hear it and that the energy comes in, it's do it. Build it and they will come. So I did it. There was a friend of mine. Great friend of mine that was also a parishioner in the church. He's worked in radio quite a bit and real radio. He was a DJ, um, a producer with AMFM radio. Can you help me with that? This is something that I gotta do this. This is a mission. This is I gotta do this. What do I do? Where do I start? This is before the whole podcast, before it turned into a podcast. And he's like, okay, let's look. So we go to all the music stores and looking for this and looking for that, and a microphone and a mixer, and like trying to keep stuff simple. And almost I lack of a better word, it's more of a cliche. Almost overnight, this I launched um what is now what people see as conscious radio network. And every weekend we would do a a four-hour, that's a long time, a four-hour rate audio radio show that was streamed through the website of Claremont Paranormal. And people would come in, and it was originally launched based off of there was this big thing happening, this big paranormal conference that was happening, and all the big names in the paranormal investigation field were all involved. And from the sci-fi channel and the history channel, and one of the hosts of the program had gotten a hold of me, and she's like, Hey, I I want to bring you in on this. Would you be interested in doing some shows and to start off your radio show? I'm like, Yeah, sure, why not? So I had some of the uh individuals on these shows on these tele normal television shows in on on our radio program, along with some local spiritualists and mediums and psychics that I normally work with to tell their story. And that's what launched it, and it I kept it kept the show going for about a year, uh just short of a year, because then I was asked, I was called by my regular employer. Ah, we need to I need you to go, would you like to go and move to Shanghai, China to work on a project? It's probably gonna take about a year for to do that, and I was like, uh at first I was like, I don't know. Things happened. I wouldn't say another midlife crisis, but things were going on with with my mother and her new friend that I wasn't so wasn't so happy with. And it just things were just just going in some this weird direction. I'm like, oh man. I picked up my stuff, put it all in a storage facility, and off I went. Moved to China, was there for about seven, yeah, about seven months, seven, eight months. But my friend couldn't continue the show. I was I wanted to keep the show going, but I couldn't host it anymore, or at least for that amount of time. He couldn't do it. So I'm like, I gotta put a pause to this. I'll relaunch it when I get back to the states. And you think when you move to another country, you think that would be a midlife crisis. Be like, man, you are some you are literally pulled out of the frying pan and thrown into the fire. What do you got it? What can you do? You don't know anybody. Luckily, I did the people that I work with normally.

A Spiritual Encounter in China

SPEAKER_02

And that'll segue into the next, probably the next part of the story, is when I mention that spirit will give you messages as a medium or a psychic, especially as a medium. If a spirit spirits know who you are. If you're a medium and you're sensitive, they know who you are, they know that you're a sensitive, they know that you are a channel between this side and their side. And I had received an unsolicited contact message from a ch on an old Chinese woman sitting in a restaurant, and we were all getting ready to leave the restaurant, and I'm sitting there at the end of the table, and suddenly I just get basically, it was felt more like a channel. Suddenly got thrown into this altered state of consciousness, and I could see this old Chinese woman, long hair pulled off to the back, large glasses, and then she's showing me this book, this big book, and she's opening the book, and she's all adamant about this just pointing at these pages, and it felt like it almost felt like the time that was going by was like an eternity. Like I popped out of this time and kind of melded with with her with that energy through the veil, and I got back into consciousness, and a friend of mine that was sitting catty corner to me on my left. He's he's looking at me, he's like, What just happened? Are you okay? And I I told him, I was like, you know, you're not gonna believe what happened. And then I told him, He's like, No, yeah, to do it. He's like, do it. Basically, it was she was giving me a message to give to somebody there in the restaurant, and at first I was like, I who is it? And then I asked her, it was our server. And the uh I'm like, how am I gonna say this is uh granted, this is the first time I've ever had this type of message. Normally my messages are from the living to those who have passed, not the other way around. And now the decorum, there's a lot of do's and don'ts in in mediumship. You just can't give messages without permission. So I'm like, okay. So before as we're as everybody's paying their tab and stuff and paying their bill, she comes up to the table and luckily she's she spoke fairly decent English. I introduced myself and told her what I did or what I can do, and I'm like, you understand, I have a message from Spirit I'd like to give to you. Um, would you like the message? And she nods, she said, I know, and stopped

A Message from Beyond: Grandmother's Urgent Plea

SPEAKER_02

for a moment, and I mentioned like your grandmother's coming through, and she's telling me you need to go back to school. You need to stop what you're doing, and you need to go back to school because these messages, this book was data, was information, knowledge. Now, even though using that symbol, that's the symbol of the book, that was inherently using the clara cognizance. I knew that book represented school information. Go and get educated, go back, finish it up. And as I delivered that information, it's I she was like looking, like um, at first I didn't know how to, I was kind of like looking at her pantomimes to see if she was picking, knowing what I was understanding. And uh she seemed to be a little distraught, like didn't know what to make of it, and she grabbed the rest of her tab, she left. As we were leaving, getting ready to leave the restaurant, she stopped me. I turned around and she was crying, and she's like, Thank you, thank you. Yes, my grandmother just passed away like three or four weeks ago. And I don't know what happened. I whether she went back to school or whatnot, but it it was confirmed that her grandmother was quite adamant on her finishing up school and for her to go back and get her degrees, get her work done, stuff like that.

The Power of Intuition and Divine Messages

SPEAKER_02

And I feel moments like that, that's not random. That is not a random thing. When you look at, okay, I'm an American, I'm in Shanghai in the middle of one of the largest cities of the world in the world, and I give a message from spirit to the living to an individual, they receive it and do whatever they want with it. Let's just say she does go back to school. But what if I wasn't there? But what if I never did deliver that message? What if I held that back? I could have changed the life of an individual. It could be somewhere else, you don't know. That that is a divine, a very I feel that's a very divine message that you change someone's life for the better. And I feel that all of us as human beings, whether you're a medium or not, we all have that inherent intuitive side. If we ask somebody, like someone who's not intuitive or doesn't recognize that a skeptic on it, if someone always has that intuitive side. We give somebody like, I believe you should do this because I feel you should do this. This is what I'm getting. That's a divine message, that's an intuitive or higher self message. Those are not random. Spirit is with us all the time, not all the time, but most of the time when we need it, and we're all helping each other. And yeah, we're all helping each other move through this path, move through this ether, this field that we call life or the third dimension. And yeah, it's that's the only time that particular thing has happened. But if it's needed, if the universe needs it, there's an angel up there, if there's some spirit up there, ancestors from with somebody that needs somebody to deliver something, it'll happen. It'll happen.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so then what happened? What's the next part?

Returning to the States: A New Spiritual Journey

SPEAKER_02

The next part is finished up my Shanghai project, came back to the States, and I'm sitting back, I'm realizing, oh man, I got back with the church, and I started working with the church again. My my teacher, actually, yeah, it was shortly after that. The Reverend uh I'll mention his name in honor of his name, Reverend Dr. Ben Reverend Ben Cox. He had he was great teacher. He his health kind of declined had declined, and he had passed, and even still today, kind of throws some hints out there and some uh assists and stuff. And he was the pastor of the church at the time, and I was working on all kinds of different spiritualist stuff, and got involved with the local spiritualist community a little bit more than I I was when before I had left. And they were looking for a pastor for the church, so I came in as the interim pastor for the chapel of spiritual light here in Orlando, and I was the pastor for about eight months until life does its thing, work changes, and I had to step aside. And then I kept getting asked what was it? It was then COVID happened, then the lockdown happened, life happened. Everybody thinks I and COVID, the whole lockdown, that worldwide lockdown, I think that was a global midlife crisis because a lot of people found something, they either lost something or they found something spiritually, and

Launching a Podcast: Building a Spiritual Community

SPEAKER_02

I don't know why I didn't do it during that, probably because I was too busy connecting with friends, connecting with with other things. But shortly after COVID, Spirit then again comes in and says, You need to relaunch your radio show. I'm like, all right, relaunch. And doing the research, I was like, Podcast. I think I need to do a podcast. Yeah, let's do a podcast. Around the end of 2022, 2021, actually, is when I started putting stuff together, and then almost overnight, lack of a better word, I think over the week, over one particular weekend, I started building the website, getting all the social media together, starting to research, okay, how am I gonna do this podcast? But yeah, it evolved. It it when as you see it today, look at the first show or listen to the first, actually, it's more visual. You can see how it's evolved, but spirit was like, you need to build this community, it's more of building a community than just doing a show. Okay, and getting all of the spiritualists and practitioners and everybody of the highest frequency out there on this planet that's dwelling here in the third dimension, going into the fourth dimension, get everybody together and build this community to help assist raise the vibration of our planet, help raise the vibration of those that need it. Everybody needs it. But and be that muse, be that be that help that that people need from those that might be, I wouldn't say suffering, but lack of a better word, suffering from either alcohol abuse, midlife crisis, health problems, somebody who just wants to look at a holistic way of doing things rather than depending on establishment to to help us heal physically, mentally, spiritually essentially is what the program ended up being and is today. Um and then now it's I've been working with working with other podcasters, other spiritualists, and getting involved in the more of the spiritual aspect. And for those who are going to be seeing this show, there's probably some people thinking, man, why is the energy out there just feels wrong? What is going on? What is happening? What is it's like this like a spiritual attack? Bad energy is happening. Why? What is happening?

Joining the Sacred Order: Exorcisms and Spiritual Warfare

SPEAKER_02

So I also got involved with um the sacred order of Saint Michael the Archangel, and became part of their clergy over the last several months, which is also the body that is the order of exorcists. And it's more of a cat that's part of the Catholic Church, more or less part of the Catholic Church. And it's in an actual order of exorcists where we have clergy, uh bishops, our uh archbishops that have they're never gonna retire. They're just gonna do their thing and kind of consult people. And they've been building a body of investigators to go and do demonic profiling and consult individuals that claim, hey, I think I'm being possessed or oppressed or whatnot. We that that body goes out and takes the cases and does the investigations at a clinical level, either at a clinical level level, medical level, psychiatric level, very scientific, very by the book, because we don't want to do any investigations to somebody who's going through like alcohol abuse, and we pick up all those things, we we investigate all that to see how legitimate it is. Are they just think they got uh a possession, or is there some sort of psychosis involved? Uh we kind of work with work with individuals all and it's it's global, it's not just here in the states, it's a global thing. So there's bishops, hundreds if not hundreds, if not, at least a thousand or so clergy members all over the globe that that are on standby to assist for those who might feel think that they're being spiritually attacked. So I assist with that. Um and an affiliate to in case something happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Yep. So you had uh uh uh one of the members uh on your podcast, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Archbishop Ronald fail in right. He's been on the show actually twice. Yeah. And it I think interesting too. I think he wrote he was was ref reference, resourced, referred to me by a publicist up in New York City here in the States, and then one morning going into work, I normally listen to this AM radio show called Coast to Coast, and I heard him on the show. I'm like, whoa, okay, talking about exorcism. And then about a month or so later, he decided to get on the show again, and we started talking a little bit more and getting a little bit more in depth on how the power of intent plays a very big role into the sacred craft of exorcism. What people think exorcism is just exercising a demon or something like that. It's not all just that. We talk about what actually happens to the exorcist, what happens to the clergy that's that might be in the room, what happens to the individual that's being exercised, what's actually going on. I've done a few exorcisms before, but not at that extent, not at that type of craft. This is That's another that's another can of worms to open up. That might be another show. The exorcisms I've done beforehand were more of uh attachments, spiritual attachments, bad energy, you know, and just cleansing and getting rid of the bad energy. And house blessings, getting rid of the entities that are attached to those things that mean ill will and getting rid of them, letting them move on. Go ahead, go see the light, go, you're not welcome, and go on. Those are also exorcisms, but not when we say exorcism, people think of the movie The Exorcist and what Hollywood talks about. It's nothing like that. Um of what the archbishop had explained. Nothing at all like that. It is there's a lot of things you just get the movie industry cannot show that on film. Not only that, I don't think I don't think they're allowed. Because that would be too scary. I don't think anybody would watch a movie like that. If you could uh emulate those things on film. But yeah, it it was a uh when I felt there there was a connection because like I said, when random things like this happen in somebody's life, when you get certain guests on your show and you uh establish a connection, you establish this this bond, this uh this uh business relationship and professional relationship, you start to realize where this path is going, what's actually happening. Like I tell people, don't rush things. If you have and you want to do something, don't rush it. Don't rush it, because it's the journey that you learn from to help you get to whatever it is. There's no real destination in life, there is real no destination, it's the journey and like I'm saying, and it's it goes back to that original question is I don't think there really is any end result. So I'm still on that path. Where I'm going, how I'm going, where I am on that path, I really don't know. And as long as the community that I've built or start continuing to build helps somebody, then the mission's the mission has been met. Um yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I can see quite clearly how the exorcism and the investigative side of that le links very well back with your paranormal investigating side of things. So that makes complete sense to me. Um and while you've been doing the podcast and meeting everybody on the podcast and working with various different people, have you are you feeling more like yourself, so to speak? Are you feeling more yeah, this is feeling like the way that it should be going? I I feel good about it, I feel less confused, I feel interested and excited rather than uncertain and yeah, I feel there's there's other aspects too, there's other things within what I'm doing too.

SPEAKER_02

It feels, man, there's there's something else missing. There's something that there's something else that I gotta do. But it spirit keeps telling me, yeah, it's not time yet. It's not time for that next door to open. Continue stay in this room for a little bit. And look at everything that that's in this room right now, and then I'll open up the next door, whatever that next stage is. And sometimes things happen so immediate. A lot of things look um recently have been coming in through dreams, either dreams, but I'm definitely in the uh the theta brainwave state, within that sleep, that wake sleep state, and something will come to me. I'm like, yeah, I'm tossing and I'm turning, and then spirits tell me you gotta do this, you gotta do this, and just and I I can see me actually doing this particular thing with the show, with the podcast, and I gotta change this artwork to this artwork, or I I gotta add this and or subtract that, and I'm seeing this whole process, and then I wake up like okay, and then I attack it, I go and get the job done. It's almost like it's just like giving me all these very specific things to do, very specific things, and then you yeah, and then you go do them, and then then you sit back, okay. Now what's the next what's the next thing on the list?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's interesting because most people their dreams are the subconscious mind processing, emotions, trauma, lifetimes, symbology. It's encoded. Yeah, that's the most literal I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. And then Spirit has I aside from just my mission and general work, even some stuff in daily life, just jail daily, regular life type stuff. I'll get I'll just I'll get these signs, these hints, and like a few years back, as an example, a few years back, it was before before a hurricane had come and and hit Florida, I think it was Ian, Hurricane Ian, which is about three or four years ago. Maybe a little bit more than that, but had these two big oak trees in my yard and doing stuff right now, and then just spirit comes in, he's like you need now, you need to now, right now, you or very soon get these trees trimmed. ASAP now, spirit's like do it, don't mess around, you gotta get it done now. And I'm like, okay, and almost immediately I came back into the house and I started going through there's a thing called Angie. At the time there was a thing called Angie's List, and it was basically you just you sign up and you put in what type of service you want, and then it it will give you contractors or people that do that work. I did that, I got a bid from three different um businesses. I picked one and they came and did the trees, and literally, like within two or three days after they were done with the trees, the hurricane hit. And nothing happened. But Spirit was like, see, you won't know what would have happened if I didn't, but they were like, Yeah, something would have happened, but I wasn't gonna take the chance to find out what yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you're your excellence at following that instruction and instinct, whereas a lot of people, as they are unfolding their journey, they're doubt or or their trust or they're not getting the message clearly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I I feel

Navigating Midlife Crisis: Embracing Change and Spiritual Growth

SPEAKER_02

as sticking with the topic or within the subject that we are when it comes to like midlife crisis, is I feel that a midlife crisis is a is that signpost in our life to wake up get more connected with it, get more grounded and get more connected with your spirituality, with yourself, with your higher self, with with the community, with the with the things that actually truly matter within your life. And depending on the individuals, life, lifestyle, work, anything, is to start is start asking those questions. It's like, where am I going? That's this is that this is that fork in the road. And I think that's what the midlife crisis is. It's that that metaphysical universal fork in the road, where I either have two directions, three directions, multiple directions, but it's it's that pivotal moment where it's like where am I going? Because we're lost. Most people, it's when you ask people what is the definition of midlife crisis, I I think it's lost. People just feel lost. So much things going on at one time that they can't keep up with it emotionally, mentally, spiritually, that it's a time to stop and listen and ask those questions to the universe. Because believe me, you're gonna get the answer, which is whether you're ready for it or not.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, and I think you've just summed it up nicely what I was gonna ask you. But is there anything that you would recommend or any words of encouragement for somebody who is going through the big questioning at the moment? They're afraid of the questions that they're asking themselves, they're afraid of losing their previous their what will probably soon be their previous identity, their previous vocation, their previous friendships, their previous marriage, their in birthing the new them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's inevitable that nothing is static in the universe, everything moves, everything, everything is in motion, and uh change is inevitable. It's inevitable. It uh nothing lasts forever, especially within this material world. We have to understand that. It's almost like someone trying, it's almost like and I tell people too that it this is also a part of it, is getting to understand our own mortality, and

Reflections on Mortality and the Journey of Life

SPEAKER_02

I think ultimately that's what it's about. It's understanding that we are eternal beings in a material world, that there is some sort of an end, but it's not the end to our spiritual life, it's a journey. Focus on the journey, focus on the journey, focus on the here now. What is happening now? This now thing don't worry about the past or the the future. It's got it it's a part of that story, but what's happening now is the most important thing. And getting connected with our spiritual self is that is turning on that radar, is turning on that GPS. Because our spiritual self or higher self is that GPS, it's it's keeping us on that little path. Um and depending on where we are in that midlife crisis. And that's the thing is a a midlife crisis can be an event, it can be a very particular event, or it could just be a plethora of different things happening at the same time. Just uh, for instance, something that came to mind before we we before we did recording or as we were starting to uh go into this was the most I think that one of the common midlife crises is when we all if we haven't already when we lose our parents in this lifetime when we lose our parents we lose part of us. Literally, we lose part of us. Or a child, or when a parent loses a child, or a parent and stuff like that. That is the biggest pivotal point that that's when we that's when we change. There's a part of us that does truly change when we lose a parent. And or a sibling, but especially a parent. It's whoa. Um and and trying to get in connected with the higher self in the universe. That's when we wake up. I think that's when we wake up because we also face our own mortality at that point in time. We step back and go, what's the meaning of all this? Why? Why why yeah, it is a sad it is it could be one of the saddest moments of your entire life. But then there are times too where I think I think about it too, and it hasn't yet happened. I lost my father years ago. My mother's still alive. But I keep telling myself, what's gonna happen when that happens? What what should I prepare now? Should I no we always dwell on it? We always think about it here and there, but we don't want to admit to it. But don't prep it, it's not about preparing for it. Sabotage, that emotional hit. It's about taking advantage of the time now with those loved ones that we may that we it's in event where none of us are gonna get out of this alive. So it's an inevitable fact, it's going to happen. So don't worry about the preparation of it. Worry about the now. Take advantage of the time that's available now because when it does happen, you are going to regret it. And um but I feel that's that's uh that can be a a factor in two midlife crises is losing somebody that's very important to us. And nothing wrong with preparation. My dad always told me, he's like, expect expect the best, but prepare for the worst. We can prepare for it, but don't worry about prepare for the materialistic type stuff, like wills and testaments and legally where everything's gonna go and stuff like that. But as far as the emotional and spiritual stuff, believe me. That's what us mediums are for. We're help we're here to help those give messages from spirits who have recently passed or have passed long time ago to give messages. But they're always around us, they're actually more alive now after they've passed than they were here in in spirit because they're no longer connected to the ego self with when they were here in body.

Conclusion: Embracing the Present and Future

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. That's uh I think a lot of things for people to think about. And I think that you're correct, you can never prepare for the passing. Really, truly. You think you can, but you can't. You just have to deal with it and be in that moment, and yes, just follow those urges. There's a lot there for people to uh reflect on, and you've got what is it, how many you're up to 140 or more episodes on your podcast?

SPEAKER_02

I think so. I think I'm up to there's a lot more on the YouTube channel. There's 200 and some odd videos, but most of them are blog, quick blog spots that I did when I first started the show. Yeah, I think where is it? I think it's about 160 that haven't aired yet. Right now, everything that's been plugged for the between now and the rest of the year is 160 episodes, but yeah, I got about 150, 140 some episodes that are are on the podcast.

SPEAKER_00

So there's a lot of questions that can be answered there that people can go and use it as a resource, and I think that's both what you and I are both doing is it's it's a resource basically. Mind's a fairly specific resource out looking at the mind in as we take it back to other lifetimes and showing you proof of that with the odd interview in there. But you're like a resource of all different approaches and uh methods of all things to do with the metaphysical and spiritual and paranormal world. So if you've got a question, go have a look on Conscious Radio Network. There's sure to be a guest or an episode that's going to help you explore or answer some of those questions. So thank you so much for coming on to the podcast tonight, this morning for you, very early in the morning. I appreciate your time and thank you for helping us out answer some questions for Alice and us.

SPEAKER_02

You're very welcome and honored to be part of your show too, Namaste, my friend.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Namaste.