Review Session #2: Trudy's Happiest Moment of My Soul Session

The final episode of Season 12: Happiest Moments of My Soul. 

• Katische Haberfield and Trudy Malins discuss part two and comment on the interesting interplay between healer and healee and how taking Trudy through this session in particular opened up Katische's clairaudience to new levels.
• They reflect on the significance of pivotal moments with celestial beings, spiritual guides, and Trudy's profound connection with her husband, Philip.
•  The episode weaves through various dimensions, past lives, and the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energies.
  
  

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to the Infinite Life Podcast
00:39 Final Episode of the Happiest Moments of My Soul Season
01:02 The Impact of Trudy's Transmission
01:39 Exploring Synchronicities and Shared Knowledge
03:13 Upcoming Podcast Seasons and Their Themes
04:27 Understanding Fear, Relationships, and Money
07:19 Trudy's Spiritual Journey and Interdimensional Experiences
10:56 Encounter with Celestial Beings
16:08 Insights into Interdimensional Communication
34:57 Balancing Energies and Gender Fluidity
53:37 Divine Feminine Energy
54:10 Trudy's Unique Approach to Sessions
56:40 Challenges with Social Media
59:26 Experiencing Different Realms
01:07:47 Connecting with Philip
01:28:31 Astral Travel and Spiritual Growth
01:37:28 Meditation and Saint Germain
01:47:34 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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Transcript

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Welcome to the infinite life with Katische Haberfield. I'd like to take you on a transformative journey, exploring the mysteries of the soul. I hope you enjoy the regression case studies, mediumship interviews, and fascinating discussions that I've had with guests on the podcast. I hope that these answer some of the questions that you might have about life on this planet, on others, and in other dimensions. Thank you for joining me and please don't forget to like and subscribe and Most importantly, share with your friends. Namaste.

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Welcome back to the Infinite Life podcast. And this is our very final episode for the happiest moments of my soul season. So we're doing the final review session for Trudy. Thank you, Trudy, for being with us again. Thank you. And it is absolutely my pleasure, as always. I'm almost sad. I'm to have this finish, and I know that this is a very interesting, exciting episode for me anyway, because just being part of this episode, Trudy, I don't know if I even told you in this preamble session, but when we get to it, I'll go into more, but my abilities to hear totally changed after this episode. So the transmission that you brought through in a minute completely changed my Clare audience. Totally changed it. Wow. Brilliant. Thank you. You are welcome. So yeah, it's, so it's amazing how, we co not co teach, but co share. So people, people on the podcast, but Particularly you and I. Yes, there's been lots of overlaps. Not just in this one, but in our last one as well, The Healer's Path. There was a few, yeah. But also, so it's not just a, so called Therapist client relationship in these special podcast seasons, but it's a transference of knowledge and abilities and skills is what I'm seeing because you not only get this is Trudy doing a session and I'm helping her here, but you've actually given me skills from this session that I didn't realize I needed or wanted because of the, being that you bring through. Yes. See, it's all about synchronicities, isn't it? It just, when I do things like this, it just shows me that synchronicity is so much more than we think it's mere coincidence or I've just made the time. Yeah, it's, but then you've given me so much knowledge and insight into the things that I'm doing, the things that you're sharing, the broader spectrum, interacting with my family. So yeah, it's, it's definitely a, a sharing. Yeah. And so, excuse me, moving energy already. So I was about to say, just let me do a plug for a second. So just a reminder to everybody that this season, well, it's, hello, it's 2025 right now, according to you, if you're viewing this back, it's 2024 for us, but it's, it's 2025 for you, so Happy New Year. And, this, this year we are doing We have two podcast seasons, which hopefully we may have filled by the time you hear this message, but if not, head to katische.com com and check out season 13 and season 14. Now the seasons are quite different. One is a therapeutic season, which is much more in line with my offerings as a hypnotherapist and a past life regression therapist. So that is looking at emotions and going through therapeutic resolutions and It is to do with your current lifetime, not other lifetimes, just earth, just your current body, just your current name, yourself, you. And I do understand that bearing your private life on public platforms is for a specific kind of person. But it's all about, the entire podcast has always been about understanding emotions and what holds us back and what, what excites us. So. People who are interested in understanding their fear understanding their relationships understanding even their fear around money. That would be the three kind of categories that I'm looking for. So do you have fear that's holding you back from following your excitement, which is your desire, which is a message from your soul? That's the kind of client. Second one would be somebody who is experiencing issues and needs to work through forgiveness, perhaps in, probably more makes more sense for relationships back in childhood or I don't know, high school friendships that you always, I mean, you can do a relationship, but you know, I do understand that's, that's more open. And thirdly, you know, we did do money. We only slightly touched on it in season three, I think. And money, Is our biggest thing that helps us understand energy and money equals love because love and energy are the same thing. So the season that I started doing on money in season three ended up being half money, half love, ended up being half the love, half money season. And we saw for people like Katie Carey, how powerful going back into the present life was to resolve her, money issues that she was experiencing at that time. And we also saw Vivian experiencing chronic block in her business. And she went back and looked at money issues and that was linked to, to past lives, but we're focusing on present lives. But anyway, so that's season 13 and season 14 is the infinite love season. And that one came, thank you, as a complete result of Trudy in this episode today. Yep. Because what the transfer, the being that you bring in and the upgrade in the skills that I could have meant that I could get the wisdom about what the next season was going to be, which is Infinite Love. And now, love, when we talk about Infinite Love, isn't talking about human love. We're going to non dualistic states, where there is no good and bad, and we're going to different dimensions and frequencies. So, I don't know, but I'm feeling that these will be much shorter episodes. For season 14, because of the frequency that you need to embody. So they might be like, I don't know, I'm guessing 20, 30 minute sessions, but there'll be very intense. So I think if you're running those that they will be for very specific people, but you'll know if it's, if it's you, you'll, you'll know. Yep, sounds like me. I'm, I'm keen to explore non duality and you'll have already probably signed up. So, what we are up to is now we are reviewing this session and Trudy, also what I wanted to appreciate that is In both of these sessions, we have touched on but particularly, no, both of them, we've really brought in your spirituality into your present life, as well as connecting it to other lifetimes. And so thank you for being an open vessel to show how you can benefit in your own personal life from understanding the connections that you may not have already realized were there in your spiritual life. So yeah, did you want to say anything about that? See, with me, with timelines, past lives, they hurt my head because I know that it all happens at the same time. So when I try, when I can't actually separate it, the overlap is actually quite real all the time. I go to the Akashic and I'm walking around awake the time there so this the whole I really struggle with it because I experience, I can experience two different dimensions at the same time. So the fact that that comes across to you and to everyone that's going to be watching it, that's brilliant because that's my reality half the time and sometimes I'm a little bit, and that's why people say to me, you are so eccentric. You are so scattered. I'm like, yeah, that's because I'm half here and I'm half somewhere else doing something else. So, yeah, it's. Yeah. Yeah. It is my reality. Yeah. And it's reassuring to know too, because I have been called not scattered, but flighty. Oh, not flighty, something airy fairy, like your head's in up in the clouds, you're not grounded in reality. A daydreamer. Yeah. All of that, yeah. And we can internalize Not quite, feet aren't on the ground, and yeah, all of that. We can internalize that as negative comments, can't we? Because, especially in the spiritual world, they're, you know, people do things, permanently to ground themselves and be grounded and be calm. But there's some of us who are a bit head in the clouds because I guess that's what we decided to be when we came here and we decided to keep that connection open and some of us. Like me, it needed a crowbar to open that connection again. Yeah, I get that. I mean, there was a big chunk of my life that I literally, literally had one toe in because it was when I was very much younger and then I wasn't. And then now I'm just like, yeah, I'm straddling the dimensions is the only way I can put it because, and it's nice to be back there. Well, it's more than nice. I love being back there because I remember being like this as a child, which means the spontaneity almost like that. Oh, look, something sparkly. It, it feels like that. And I remember being like that as a child and loving being like that and then coming back to earth and going, Oh, right. Yes, I was doing that. And, you know, so to be able to be like that, kind of bringing back the excitement that I found as a little one. Yeah, I'm loving it all over again, so I'm not complaining about that. All right, so we'll press play, and then Trudy, just let me know when you want to say anything about what you're watching back. These are stoppings. They're bringing the bubble of white light that you are in down, down, down to the surface. The bubble of light is on the surface now. I'm going to count down from three to one. And when you reach one, you'll be on the other side of the white light, our destination today. Three, moving through the white light. Two, moving through the white light. One, be on the other side of it now. You are in another place. Look around you, engage all of your senses, look with your mind's eye, feel and know through your energy body, listen with your spiritual ears. What is your first sensation? It's dark. Mm hmm. When I was laid on the picnic blanket, Even before the angels came, a white lady has come. Now I thought she was my higher self, but she's not. All I can say is she's a celestial being. It's the only, it's the only words I've got to describe her. Okay. So, then when we were floating with the angels, there was just really building excitement. Mm hmm. And I said to her, I know where I'm going, I know where you're taking me, and she just smiled and she went, Yes, heart of my heart, that's where you're going. So, I got very excited and I said, Is it really? Am I actually going to meet my father? And she said, Yes. So, this is where I am. Alright, so have a look around. Is she still there? Or has she moved on? Is it really? Really in, like, she's on the edges of where the light and the dark is. She's right on that edge, so I know she's there, but she's just like, yeah, just you do your thing, so. Okay. All right. So I want you to look around and engage all of those senses. So there's nothing to be worried about because this is the happiest moments of my soul. So we're looking for sounds. So, and I think I say it in a minute, and this is because we have done other podcast sessions where I was like, are we, I took it literally, I was like, are we going to see your father? Your birth father, your birth father, are we going to find a happy message from that? Because this is the happiest moments of my soul, because I've had, you know, so many of these happiest moments of the soul sessions have involved, mediumship, meaning that we have brought in other people, right? Even in your other sessions. So I was like, well, I don't think it's part of the program, but maybe we're going to get a message from him. Or his higher self or his soul because I don't know whether your father's still alive or not, but he's still alive. Yeah. So I didn't know that. I thought maybe he might have been dead or something, but I thought, Oh, maybe he's, he's dead. And we're getting a message from the in between realms or we're seeing his soul so that he can share a happy moment. And so this is, I was in a totally different thing and you are like, no, no, no, not that father. Not today. And I'd forgotten all about that because you know, when you do so many sessions, it's like, but as soon as you mentioned. As soon as you start to tell me about where you're going, I'm like, Oh, I remember him. Smells, sights, touches, sensations. Okay. So there are beings here. Okay. And I know I'm on another interdimensional plane. This is not a human world or life. Okay. I don't know the name of the planet or the universe. I just know it's. What they're telling me, as usual, is irrelevant. Yep. And the really weird thing is, I know people And the human in us both goes, ah, could you just tell us? Just tell me. Because, like, if we're going to be explorers, could we, like, just discover our whole entire universe before science does? But it's because, but you haven't asked that. You've asked for the happiest moment of your soul. Everything else, it's with no consequence. And it's not like 30 days. And yeah, as usual, door gets slammed, so, should have known better. Communicating, but it's not with sound. No, it's thought, right? Yeah, yes. Okay. So I've just gotta, and I know he knows I'm here. Okay, so just take a moment to take a deep breath and tune into the frequency of the thought. This makes my head pound. Yeah, it's making my head pound too, but that's alright. You're doing fine. Just relax into it, and know that even though I'm speaking to you, you don't need to use words for a few minutes. Just so that you can adjust to receiving the transmission. So I don't need to know for a minute while you adjust. So just for the listeners, viewers, that's not normal. We don't usually get, well, you might, but I don't usually get, aching and pain in my head when somebody else is doing something, do you know what I mean? Usually there's no sensation for a traditional past life regression other than the adjusting to being very relaxed. But here we're going into, not a. a space which is not even in our own universe, and we're adjusting to different frequencies and different ways of communication, and so you're doing that, and I am, I guess, without realizing it, attuning to that frequency as well, but also the person on the other side of the screen is the energetic frequency upholder. So you don't realize you're doing it, but what you're doing is like, you're holding the weight of the session. You're like, yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. The, the pound, Oh yeah. The pressure that I could, yeah. I can, even now I can, as soon as I said that I'm like, Oh, and here it comes. So yeah, it's still a, yes, it's still quite a, what's the word, still quite a physical memory at the moment. Yeah, just allow my voice to become irrelevant. Allow my voice to simply help you relax into adjusting to the frequency, just relaxing into it, relaxing in. Right, okay, so I'm still in my human form, which is what's weirding me out and Do you remember I told you about the big blue legs?? Yes. Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm This is where we are. We are the people that are very tall and have long, blue legs. Excellent. It's just love it. Like to see some faces just makes me laugh., you know what my mind sees them as, and it's not correct. But it goes like, it's a long, stretchy smurf. Yeah, I, yeah, I mean, honestly, it's one of the, Mr, Roger Harper is Mr. Sneeze. He's just a head and legs, that's what I see, is the long legs of, yeah, it's crazy. Because you're like, hello, somebody decided to make a whole collectible series of figurines with blue creatures. And make them human friendly, and they live in this magical dimension. Yeah. You know our TV shows and our creative things, even if I go off topic for a second, it's not off topic, but if you have a look at the Indian, is it Krishna? He's blue. Yes. And I Googled that cause it's like a very Google topic. Why is Krishna blue? And it says, Oh, it's supposed to be his blue aura. I've reflected in his skin and then, you know, scientists go, well, it was a birth defect. And then I, my brain just went, I wonder if he's one of the blue Smith people. He might say one of the blue Smith people. It probably was. Yeah. But you know what I mean? Like, it's like, and this is how the human brain works. We've got to pull in bits from what we're familiar with to put the pieces together. So you and I both know Smurfs you know, maybe people listening to this in 20 years time won't know what a Smurf is. Google 1970s blue plastic figurines and Sonic the Hedgehog probably, well, yes, he's blue too. He's Yeah, but it's a very blue, it's a very blue, plasticy blue color. And that is that, that the color that you thought, it's a very plasticine blue. It's a very, yes. It's that blue plastic. Yes. Yeah. But they're obviously not plastic, but yeah, it is that. It's that color. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. You might need a ladder or something to climb on it, I'm assuming so. Someone needs to pick me up. I need something. Okay. There is a pair of legs coming. Okay, great. And I'm just gonna sit and wait. Because it's very dark. They obviously don't need lights, so. So this, the way these beings look, you know sun capture crystals, they're really faceted. Mm hmm. They look like they're faceted because the light is very, this is why they don't need lights. But I don't know where they're sparkling from. They are quite sparkling. Iridescent, they're not spot, they're iridescent, and their bodies, for want of a better word, are faceted. And this So could you put your hands through their body, are they beings of light? Or are they solid like us? Well, that's that, that map, that, that, their, their energy, my hand won't go through. Okay. Or will it if I push? I don't want to push and be rude. I'm sure they, I'm sure they won't mind. I know. They, their bodies give, and you know the last one we went, what was it, and I said it was like a force field, but it's not. It's they give and they bend and they wrap, so. Okay. I, I found this fascinating because in this season also, usually when people do a past life regression, for example, it's like a replay of a memory. a movie. But in this season, people have been able to pick things up and eat dinners. They've been able to dance and you are able to put your hands through and touch. And I'm like, cause I can feel the vibration, but there's no way I can join you and touch. Cause I'm not in the session, but I am observing it. And I'm like, hang on, you can actually touch it. You're not just seeing this with your mind. You can physically touch it. You're you're like, it's like between you and. Camera is, it's like, yeah, the dimension is opened up in front of you. Yes, and I'm, and I'm in it. Yeah, it is. But it's what I'm not, what I noticed is how, and I should imagine that we try to, especially when it's an interdimensional thing or it's a a mythical creature thing we try with our human brain to, to connect the dots. But we don't quite get it right. So when I just go, actually, you know, it doesn't matter if it's rude, and I'm going to have a go, things just flow a little bit better. But the, the resistance, because of my small brain, it does actually make, and I'm like, dude, just put your hand, just do it. They don't really care. But in that moment, I'm being very human. And oh, it's a bit rude. But you know, to that, that even from the last time that kind of made me chuckle how much I try and put it in our little human box. But yeah. No. Okay. Cause if somebody came up to you and went, Oh, Trudy, you look squishy today. Let me just remind you, children do that. Don't they? Oh gosh. Oh man. That really sucks. But yeah, and in the first seven years of a child's life, that's what they do is like they touch and they prod and they poke and we get offended by it, but it's like, they're still understanding. What happens if I do this and this, and if I pull this and, and their sensations, your sensations in your hands, are they self taught? Sensations in your hands changes because where they're growing and their bones are literally growing, they're also finding out that the ends of their fingers are actually. Further away than they thought. So when they're squeezing you really hard, it's because they don't know that their fingers have grown. It's just a really weird concept. Yeah. So that's just my child habit bit coming in there. So it's like, I want say like light bending. Okay. I'm a description. Description, descrip. Mm-hmm . That's a good description. It's what it, it's what it feels like. So they're not solid, but when you touch them, they don't feel cold or hard. You just know you are touching them. Okay. All right, so let's see what happens next. Okay, so he's, oh I'm on a nice, okay, I'm on a nice high chair now. So, he is not my father. He's sitting down in front of me. I have to wear a hat. It's okay. He's going to take me, he's, he's going to take me. Okay. Oh, he's smoothing my head for me as well because he says he understands. It's, it's hard for my human head and brain and skull to contain it. Okay. So where are we going? See, he's walking, I'm floating, because just, okay, energy is, and that in itself, sorry, that in itself, it, it fascinates me that, like when we went with the dragons, that they're still doing their thing, and because I'm in their realm, my body, my energetic body just knows what to do, it knows to float, it knows to fly, it just, like there, he's walking and I'm floating alongside it, just, yeah, that is, that is amazing, that blows my mind a little bit, just wanted to point you that out. Yeah, and it makes you wonder, you know, to bring it back to, historical context, and I only getting this insight because Jesus is one of my spirit guides, you know, when they talk about Jesus walking on water or passing the water, walking on water was the one that I got the image of. It's as though he was doing like what you were doing then, which is accessing another dimension. Thank you. To create miracles, right? Because he was very physical, you know, like, yes, yes. But yet the Bible says he walked on water. Oh, you know, apparently does. I've always tried to read it, but never got past the Garden of Eden. Get stuck on the Garden of Eden. And, yeah, so there's a possibility that it was not just a story or an analogy, but that there's the potential that he was connecting to his interdimensional nature, his multiple senses of being, beingness, and could actually, well, you just experienced walking floating, walking on water is floating. You just experienced it right now. So now you can tick on, put on your resume on LinkedIn. Can, can, can. Float. Put that, yeah, on my spiritual resume. Float's another dimension. I'll endorse it on LinkedIn. Have seen Trudy float. Okay. Energy is, he's telling me it's a long, it's a long way away. Now, I don't know whether that, he's, he's trying to do the concept of distance for me. Because for them, time and distance, There's just nothing. So, wherever we are, we've just opened into It's so bright. So I don't even know if it's a room, a house, or a temple, or It's just bright, so bright. Okay. When we're going in. Okay. And there's lots of blue people sitting down cross legged. Okay. And meditating. When you said that, when you said that, my own personal imagery, and I just remembered it now, changed distinctly from them being Smurf like people to being like, what I would call an Indian yogi, but blue. Like when you said they were cross legged on a mat. Is that, what did you, how did their physicality transform? They stayed, see I really can't get past the bit of, they look, they look like they should be hard crystal because of their iridescence and their faceting. Okay. And that's what my brain is trying to put them into that box, but when I was there they were just so fluid. So it's this graceful I can see it in my mind's eye that one minute they're standing, it's almost like they just fold and they all sit there. Yes. Like the Indian yogis just sitting there and it's, it's comfortable. It's natural. There's no, you know, we sit there and we fidget. It's just a place of rest for them, you know, not meditative. It's just, Oh, and relax. And then automatically they go into their meditative state. And because they use telepathy or thought transference, They don't waste all this energy. And they just feel so fluid and the feeling is just, yeah, just, I just want to say fluidity, it's, it's soft, it's relaxed, and it's, which is in real direct conflict with my brain telling me, but they're faceted, they should be hard, and they're just not, it's just the weirdest. Crossover ever. Mm. Just and bring, and to bring, to bring up on the, on that point that you just made about they don't waste energy because they're not engaged in thoughts. And that is pretty interesting because, you know, the entire reason for the therapeutic resolutions that I provide is because of the thought based energy that we have here on earth. You know, the only reason that we. Feel emotions and feel things like regret or fear is because of all of the thought forms and words that are circling around your energy body. And yeah, like when you just described that they could just go into that relaxed state. I'm like, I wish I had a button that I could do that. I want some of that. Yeah. It was just, Oh, I was like, please let me have it. But yeah, we, when you talk about the thoughts, it's just, it's the hamster wheel. It's the what ifs and how should I have said it, should I have done and just, yeah, it just keeps us in this horrible tension. Just, I just like to be the little monkey, you know, la la la la la la, with no thoughts, just kind of like this in my head. I like that quite often. That's quite nice. Need to engage that part of my brain a bit more. He's coming. Oh God, this is so exciting. How's he not hear that? Where is he? Okay, he's in another chamber. And they're all, they're all looking at me. Why are you all looking at me? Okay. Right, I'm gonna sit down and join them. On my big chair. And this, is this the dad from your lifetime as Trudy or a different lifetime? Different lifetime. Yeah. It's taken me a while. They're showing me being there as a human. So that's the bit that I'm struggling with. Okay. But then the last time I met him when it was just a pair of legs and he did tell me he was my father, I was human and I was in the Akashic. So maybe the episodic would just be easier for me to remain like this. So I just have to wait. There's a corridor and the doors have opened, it's quite a way away, and there's quite a lot of these blue people, I'm going to put genders because their energies is a masculine or a feminine energy, it doesn't necessarily mean they're male or female, they're just, they all do something different so their energies, they're all slightly different because they do different things. Okay, great. Some of them carry both of the energy, not many. Okay. They're quite separate, but there's a, the, okay, the few that are coming, that I find interesting. Oh, that's a very nice still of my mouth open. That I found really interesting that I immediately identified with the masculine and feminine energy, but immediately out of my mouth is, but they're genderless. So, yeah, that was really, that was quite an eye opening concept that they can have a really feminine energy but it isn't actually attached to, as we would know it, as a gender because some carry both, some are, yeah, that just really, and that still is rattling around now. But it's, the energy is very different but it, it means nothing in gender terms. Yeah. Yeah, and I think that I'm not making a statement here about anything on earth, but I think that's also potentially because I don't know the answer. Part of what we're experiencing in our own lifetimes, we've had very definite gender expressions of personality, of physicality, of roles, of the way of being. And in the last 10 years, on earth, we have experienced gender fluidity and people like your age and my age and above are struggling to cope with all the different sort of ways that human beings are expressing themselves and expressing their gender. And, you know, you can argue with somebody black and blue, and I'm not saying which way I go, but about you were born a male, you were born a female, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, yeah, the biology of it. And then we're also starting to see. And again, I haven't looked it up, but these human beings who are being born as intersex, which means, you know, and so while that seems very weird on earth, and we're all trying to grapple with it, it's almost As if, in a strange way, it's happening for a reason, because we need to understand that as we understand what it is to be a being rather than just a human being, you need to understand that there are beings that are masculine, feminine, both, and neither. Yes, it's not attached to a gender, it's not, it's not attached to anything, because it is energy. Yeah. And that's the bottom line is what, yeah, they were just energy and it, it just, it didn't matter. They're just, so, you know, this one was a nurturing energy. This was a focused energy or a mass, not male masculine. So it was a little bit more robust and whereas the, yeah, it, it didn't matter. And the words masculine and feminine probably isn't, in that realm, a true representation, we've just, because we are male, female, with regards to the gender, that's just what we've labelled it. So, but there it, again, it was of no consequence. That was just my interpretation of their energy. Yeah, it's fascinating. It's the first time I've come across in anybody's sessions where you, you've identified. You or they have identified both. Do you know what I mean? I've either had either or, or neither, but not both. But that's the first time I've come across a both being. Through carry the energy that we would associate as masculine and feminine. Said it. They are the balance, is what I can hear. Okay. And this is okay. So, the ones in this chamber hold the individual energy. I don't know how to explain this. But how do I explain this? You might, you might not need to, it might just become self evident. Okay, maybe. So then the people that have come through from this other room, chamber, hold, hold the balance is what they're telling me. Okay. And my father is one of the ones that hold the balance, which is why they were in another room. Okay. Oh, they're walking so slowly. So that, that in itself. is an interesting statement, isn't it? My father is a being who is both. Yeah. He's both masculine and feminine. He's a balancer, but you still called him your father so that, and he still identifies as your father. So that's, again, again, your brain's just like, say what? Yeah, it was just like, that's probably why my head hurts so much. Yes. And then, Also, I suppose, and that's why I was having trouble explaining it because I've got to explain it because we live in a human world. So, yeah, such two different concepts to try and But yes, holding the back, that was, yeah, that was quite a revelation and quite exciting as well. With your big legs you're walking slowly. So just relax into it, because it's just your hearing that is Yes, getting too excited, I know. Relax into it. Ah, there we go. Okay. And they are, I'm going to say, featureless. Okay. It's the only way to explain, but not in a scary way. Yeah. And he just wanted to say hello. So, I don't know where to put it. So, he's telling me, as he does this, balance. I can't see what it is, and that obviously isn't important. Which he's giving to me, to bring back balance. Okay. And he said I'll understand it when I need to understand it. Okay. And, we're going back. This is, I can stay a while, but I can't, I'm not, You can't stay too long here. Did you see my face? Say what? It's over already? I'm pissed off. I know, it's just, yeah. But yeah, you couldn't, but as we'll find out now, but I was like, so what, he just wanted to say hello. Yeah. I was like, yeah. When he went, he just wanted to say hello. And I was like, that was it. But then that's what made me happy because I've had the connection before, just the legs. So yeah, it was. But also, and the bit that I totally missed is he gave you the balance. Yeah. So that'll be interesting to see what happens, because what he's done is he's given you the the ability to be the, the being that is both. That is going to be very interesting. I had forgotten that part. Okay. Because of our human time, we can't, I have to go. Okay. All right. And that's why he's touching his head this game. That's why. Yep. Okay. So I'll say goodbye and I'm going to go back to the The lady, the celestial, the Yes the being. Step out of the dark, because it's not good to stay there. Okay. In this In your form, that you are presently as Trudy. Yeah, yeah. And she says I've got to go back to the picnic blanket. Okay. I'm like, say what? Do the whole exact relaxation thing all over again? I don't know, it's just like, off you go. Because you need grounding, obviously. Yeah, it makes sense, as I was floating along, yeah, it makes sense. Alright, just another guy to ground you. Feel your body connect with the earth. Allow yourself to drain any excess energy from being in the other dimension into the ground. Mother Gaia. Yeah, you're right. Take your shoes off. Mother Gaia will use the excess frequencies and the excess energies and she will redistribute it into Earth. So just letting all the thought based frequency energy and that tension drain into Mother Gaya. And she is saying goodbye. Oh, goodbye. She was amazing, amazing. All right, so while we're, while we're lying here, just see if you can get really, really relaxed and we'll see if we can get your highest self to come in for a moment to explain to us why that was the happiest moment of your soul. So just relaxing, allowing the white light to distribute in your body, allowing yourself to go deeper, down, down, down, deeper down into relaxation. Feeling your body completely relax, coming at one with the earth. Feeling yourself. become enmeshed in that cocoon of white light again, making you feel soft and floaty. She says, my higher self says, hello, Pateesh. Hello, how are you? you. I am very well, thank you. Do you know, I don't know why, but I'm always shocked when they know my name. Yeah, I suppose you don't expect it, but then, I don't, I don't know why they wouldn't know my name, but I'm just like, how do you know who I am? Your face is like that. But it was when, what really made me laugh was when the celestial being just went, yeah, I'm going to say bye. You were like, okay, bye. No, because I wanted to know more about her. I know, she, they just come and they go and I'm like. If you're coming in, say something! Yeah, they're also like, This is like Trudy's session, Kateesh, it's not about you. So that was interesting. Yes. So that was a lovely gift. Yes, and I felt it was necessary for Trudy to understand a father's love. I can understand that. So we did give her the gift because the father on, for this life of Trudy has not been a pleasant experience as she knew the undertaking, but she needed to remember that there is a father that loves her and sees her. Okay. And for people who wonder about why we end up with the mothers and fathers that we end up with, your higher self has just reminded you, you knew the undertaking, which is always very difficult. Yeah. So that brings a happiest moment. It does, because for Trudy, there is always the sense of what if. Ah, okay. Could it have been different? Okay. So, we just, she just needed to be reminded that there is love, and she is loved, and she was loved, and still is. Yes, of course. Because you humans with your times. Yes. And could you explain to us, please, a beautiful. So that's also important because, because you also mentioned earlier that you dip in and out of all, all states at once. The, it's not trauma, but the thing that makes it even more difficult for you is that you had that ability to remember that feeling from the Smurf. It's called the Smurf Dad. Yeah. And so you were like, but this is the feeling I get from the Smurf Dad without even knowing it's the Smurf Dad. And this is the feeling that I get from the, the Earth Dad. And it's not like you were remembering a dad from a previous incarnation where you had a great relationship, right? You, you went straight to billions of light years away, wherever it is, and went, this is what I'm trying to compare. Yeah. And it's, it's not the same thing. No, it's not. And that's, and I think that's probably the bit I struggle because we come with no memories and we come, we know what we're coming into. But then when we're born, we forget all of that. So stepping into the ins and the outs, there is still that, well, hold on a minute. It can be this. What if I remained there and didn't do this, then that messes up. I would have still done this, I would have still had, whether it be this lifetime or a future lifetime, I would have still had to experience the lack of when I've experienced the completeness of. So there has to be, well it's the duality, you have to experience the, oh it's the, oh my god, it's the balance. Yep, he's given you the gift of the balance. It just made sense, didn't it? Yep, I got it at the same time. It made absolute sense. Cheers, Dad. Yeah, so it's like he's just like put into your heart. The energy that you needed to no longer feel that pendulum, the weight difference, the weight of the difference. Yeah. So you don't need to expect anything else other than that, other than it's provides you with not completion, but just energy. Yeah. Just energy to balance it out. Yeah. Being that came to help Trudy, could you describe her so we can understand her form? Because she brought happiness simply by Trudy seeing her because she was so beautiful. She is an ancient being, one that we almost forget. She is akin to your gods and goddesses, but she is more. She is everything the universe is. She is everything that the universe is not. She is the beginning and she is the end. She's everything. Wow. So she's like a divine feminine energy in a way. A creation energy. Yes. Yes, she is. Okay, wow. And I guess I, I, I. Go. I'm going to go. Your face has a thousand questions burning. I can just see it. It's like you could have a printout going Yeah. Or a dot matrix printer going Yeah, dot dot dot matrix. So this is where Does it help Trudy's soul, does she like to help explain and educate things to people? That's why we are being shown this being, do you know what I mean? Because my happiest moments of my soul, which you understand obviously, because you possibly have seen them as I was conducting them, likes to educate and inform and discover and be a bit of a researcher in a way. And does Trudy's soul like that as well? There is a part of Trudy that she refers to it as going down the rabbit hole. And she gets very excited when she finds out that what you humans have decided doesn't exist, exists inter dimensionally. Okay. And it makes her so happy. There are, it's another realm out there where The Mermaid sing as she has found out when she has taken many people in their boats across the water, just to the akashik and the mermaids, and the seahorses and the nars, they all, they all come and play. So yes, she does very, she does very different at Caic sessions then to the mainstream practitioners. Very different, and it's the only way. Everything else makes her skin, she puts an itch. She takes them and it's their experience. But when she takes them from their human consciousness across the waters, she opens up a new world for them. And each time she goes, she also feels and finds something different. And this brings her great joy. You Perfect. I didn't even know she did these sessions. She's very secretive. Or she's not very Sometimes. She's not very social media promoting ish of these sessions. Definitely not. Definitely not in the world of social media. It's all word of mouth. And those that find her, or should I say, those that need Trudy, find her. Okay, perfect. We have tried to tell her this, and when she tries to put herself into the world of social media, we do put a brick wall in front of her because she knows this isn't how she should do it. Yeah. It will happen as it happens and unfolds as it is meant to. This is interesting because they've said the same thing but in a different way to another client. Great. And then they say the same thing, but in a different way to me. And because, because I used to be a university lecturer in marketing, I'm like, Oh, piss off. Like. I can't accept it. And I don't know if it is actually meant to be for me exactly the same. Because it's not my session, but it was interesting. The way that they spoke that then they put a wall in front of you, right? Yeah. Now, if we're talking traditional spiritual concepts, Somebody who didn't have that message for their higher self might be saying, and this is where I'm like, kind of going correlations here, but might be saying, there's a visibility block. People can't see my posts. for example. And actually it's not a visibility block. There's no limiting belief behind there. They're like, you don't need to bloody do it. No, this way, dear. Okay. You're not listening. Have that. So yeah, literally it's a, it stops you short. And as you said, it's not a visibility block. Cause I was doing the social medias. I was doing the chat. I was getting people and I joined, they'll get to join my groups and I held a container for the year. But then when we did our last one, The soul count. Well, they told me and my higher self is like, okay, clearly you're still not listening. So we put a wall in front of you because this is not how you're meant to be doing it. So yeah, it's yeah, the the messages from the previous episodes we did, the seasons we did. Yeah, the crossover speaker's clearly not listening. So yeah, it's easier. So there's no point doing it on social media because I'll flog my guts out and still get nothing. So. Yeah, there's no point in hustling where I'm not going to get anything. It's going to happen. Those, as she says, those that need to find me will find me. It's word of mouth. It's the, the synchronicity of bumping into somebody who goes, Oh my God, I've just given your name to so and so. They really need you. And it will just, it will unfold as it is. So it's been a hard lesson to learn, but yeah, we're learning. Well, of course it is because, that's just you, you humanist going, this is the formula of how you, you do a business and then you evaluate a business based on the success criteria that everyone else has it where they're like, okay, but did you see you took them to the mermaid realm? How would you like to quantify that? Yeah. And when I listened to hear it back, I'm like, yeah. And then she tells me when I just, I was like, well, I wonder how she's going to take this. I'm like, can you just put your hands in the water? Cause the mermaids want to play. And then she, the girl that I was taking, the client I was taking, she went, Oh my God. At the end of it, she went only this morning when I was in the shower, she said, I could hear, she said, and the only way I could say it was mermaid singing. And that was the end of it. You opened a purse hearing there too. Yeah, so it just, maybe it, maybe it's not, maybe it's just allowing you to lean more into it. You knew it was there, but Sometimes you need that validation that you're actually not going bonkers, that you are hearing what you're hearing. And it kind of gives you that permission to just go, yeah, okay, I'll accept it now. Because we do, we always think we're a bit bonkers when we hear things. Yeah, for me it was different though. And I think that I think you might not be giving yourself credit for the frequency that you hold because Okay. As I said to you, when, for me, the, the level of hearing was totally different. It, like, it opened up a middle layer in my ear where I could hear different things that I could never hear before. And it's not that they weren't there before, it's a totally different level of hearing. So when that, that being can now speak to me, and it, it's like at a totally different level. Yeah. Yes, it is. It's weird when you hear them. It's in a different part of your brain, if you wanted to say that. Inside the skull, it's a different place and it's very quiet. And the other thing that opened up for me as a result which is very interesting, is that, I'm not so sure it's a good thing, but it's a bad thing. It's a good thing. So for example, it's a thing, before where I could, sort of, I use my clairaudience and clairvoyance to hear and see ghosts. Now, I can, because of this, it doesn't, it doesn't even make sense so for example, I can feel, if I need to, through physical sensations in my own body, the pain that a ghost is going through. Because I am not I'm blocking the other senses that I've traditionally used. So like, yeah, I can't give details cause it was a private session, but, before it would take me, yeah, I've never felt the physical pain. I've known that they're an emotional pain, but if they can't, if I, if they can't get me through the traditional methods now, because I, I don't know, I'm tired or, or whatever, or just don't expect them. Then, yeah, I will feel the sensation that they are going through, and I will be able to, the weird bit is communicate with them, now that I understand what it is. And hear the words they are saying, not as interpreted, but as the way that they are in that state. So, if their speech is affected by the way that they died, then I will hear them in their original voice with the speech affected. Not the, like, translated version, which was, Hi, my name is Rosie and I'm deaf. Yeah. Feeling sift because a bullet. Almost like it's been sifted. Yeah. So, so that the, the distortion is removed now. Now I hear. It's a frequency thing. That. Yeah. It's another frequency or energetic layer within you that's just been unlocked, unlocked. You might be getting messages from just, yeah. Not just ghostly mosties. Oh yeah, I'll get them now. Yeah, now I'm getting them from all. But I've always been okay. I've always been able to do that with the other, the others. But it's just the now that I can, if I need to hear the ghosts in their own voice and their own pain, which is just a whole new level of Weird. Of, ooh. I don't know if I wanted that, but yeah, okay, now I know that you're there. But that's Yeah. It can also be very, very difficult to describe experiences like that when you put it into human words, isn't it? Yes. It is difficult. And it then makes the others that are listening to her switch off because she gets very excited. And yes, when she starts talking about mythical beings. She feels the eye roll and is like, clearly not for you. Right. So yes, she's just, it unfolds as it is meant to, which frustrates her a lot. Yeah. Sometimes I've started using AI to create images to try and help me with the fact that I can't describe things and a picture is sometimes better, but yeah. So is there anything else that you would like to say before we move on to another moment in time? Is she sufficiently grounded again now to move forth? She is. Yes. Yes. She's taken her shoes off. And her feet were on the wooden floor, so she's, she's good. Okay, all right, well thank you. You'll bring in the angels? Thank you very much for your time today. All right, so Trudy, we're just relaxing, and the angels will come and collect you again. So they will wrap you in their arms, and they will lift you higher and higher, higher and higher, drifting and floating and relaxing in the angels arms, as they will take you to a moment. of your soul to explore the concept of happiness, peace, and joy. Something that is very beneficial for you, Trudy. So just relaxing in the knowing that the angels know exactly where to go. Drifting and floating. And as you relax in your arms. You go down deeper into relaxation. Down deeper, feeling more and more deeply relaxed. Deeper and deeper. Now the angels. are coming and bringing the bubble of light back down to the surface to the new moment that they wish you to see and experience. So bringing the bubble of light back down to the surface, down with three, moving through the white light, with two, down and with one, be there. Allowing yourself a few moments to relax into this new location. Allowing yourself to orientate with your spiritual senses. And then allowing yourself to observe it out loud for us. It brought me back to this lifetime, as I am now. And it's the first time I've met Philip, my husband. Oh, nice. So, last time they anchored me back to my family. So, he's obviously, he's very important, obviously, in this lifetime. But, I know I know him from another lifetime, but they are telling me I'm not ready to know that yet. Did you just see the energy move around you? No, I was too busy looking at you. Go on, go back and let me see. So on, not the side where your microphone is, the other side. Right. Let me go back here. Experience. So bringing the bubble of light back down to the surface. Down with three, moving through the talk, when you mention Phillip's name. Two, down with one, be there. Allowing yourself a few moments to relax into this new location. Allowing yourself to orientate with your spiritual senses and then allowing yourself to observe it out loud for us. It brought me back to this lifetime, as I am now, and it's the first time I've met Philip, my husband. Oh nice. So, last time they anchored me back to my family, so he's obviously, he is very important obviously in this lifetime. There. Yes. Yes. Oh yes. From another lifetime. He was there. The soul was there. Yes. Where, where, when you look at the screen, where the, this bit here, where the, hang on, where, there, there, where the, yeah. Yeah, I probably have a, like a marker thing, but I don't know how to use it. But yes, that was strange. Yeah, it was there. It was like, he was, he was, His energy was right there, just as you got that you knew him from another lifetime and he was important to your soul. Another lifetime and then it rippled. Yep. But they're telling me I'm not ready to know that yet, so they're just reminding me of when we were both 18. Oh, you were 18, wow. Yeah. What's happening? Can you just let us relive the scene, okay? Because this is important. It was my brother's 21st birthday party. Okay. We used to drink together in the local pub. I lived in Thornton Heath. Philip lives in Ashfordshire by Heathrow Airport. So it's quite a way away from each other. And my brother's girlfriend lives around the corner. So and it's just, oh, my brother left home, I say, got kicked out when he was 17. Okay. So, to see my brother, I was still at school, I used to have to bunk off, and I would go to London, where he was doing, so it was always just snippets of time. We never had, brother and sister time. I would go to his place of work because he was the apprentice hairdresser and talk to him in between and his girlfriend. used to be there and it so it was lovely to see him but it was never, never enough because there was always something else to do so it was just so lovely to go to my brother's 21st birthday party because I knew all his friends and they always used to look after us because obviously we were younger than them and it was just the music was great and it didn't matter that I only went I went with my best friend and her boyfriend And that I only knew my brother and about four other people. It was just Danced all night. Until I had to go to the hospital with Philip, because Speaker fell on him, but that was quite funny. My little, I took my little brother Why don't we just bring it into the, bring it into the moment, Trudy? So that you're experiencing it, okay? Because we want you to re experience the happiness. So push your human analytical mind away, because we're going to go back in time and relive the most important moment here, so that you can re experience the happiness. So we're going to see it moment by moment. So just I mean, I only said hello to Philip, but it was the joy of the music and the dancing and the freedom and So just allow yourself to step fully into the scene. Step fully into the moment. Oh, the dancing. What can you sing? It's pitch black as always and it's just like flashing lights because that's how we partied. Everything was always dark, the only lights were in the kitchen where the alcohol is. And it's just everybody's dancing, nobody's My friends have gone in a different direction, but it's safe. It's happy. You can feel the beat of the music through the floor and it's just, just so being my brother's there, I know you know, sorry. I know Philips and I know Philips gonna be, it's is the one that I'm gonna be with. I hardly said two words to him all night. I think I asked him, I did, I asked him to dance, and he went, moment de bourre, so. All right, so let's just go fully into the moment, so that you can feel the beat of the music, and you can feel the energy, because what I want you to do is let that soak and saturate through. And he's playing with my little, he's dancing with my little brother, because I had to take, my little brother was only nine, I had to take him with me, and obviously I'm worried about him, but. Philip's just messing around with him, putting him on his shoulders, and I'm like, somebody else is worrying about him, and that made me feel just, wow, he doesn't even know this little boy, he doesn't know me, and he's automatically just taking that pressure away without him realising that he's doing that. Mm hmm, that make you feel? That was just like, that is that relief that I don't have to have eyes in the back of my head all night for five minutes, someone else is It's looking out for me. It really felt like he was doing it for me. Okay. Which just made me go, oh, he's just amazing. And yeah, he just, he didn't talk to anybody else. Because normally all blokes talk to my best mate, but no, he didn't even talk to her. So in this moment, what do you know about him? I just know, in this moment, I just know he drinks in the pub with my brother. Okay. Because my brother's introduced me to, and it wasn't my brother, it was my brother's girlfriend. She was like, oh, this is Phil, and he drinks in the pub with your brother, but he also knows my sister, she says to me. Jane, my boy, my brother's girlfriend. He knows my sister. He what? But just to explain to the viewer listener what I'm doing here. This is so complicated. Mm hmm. Is that I was trying to get you to go into the memory, like in a regression, right? So that you would be explaining it. I'm walking into the kitchen. I'm getting a drink. Oh, there's a nice looking boy. Oh, that's the guy, Phil, you know, but you, what you've done is gone back to your normal self, which is thought bubble over the head. And there's like diagrams going, and then there's this thought bubble, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, you've just. Got all this information that you wanna share as a story and you want to explain all the connections all at once. And I'm like, what is the color of the tiles on the floor? And like, I'm not having any of that this, you need to listen to this. Yeah. So, that's why I, I, I like trying to get you back into the moment to try and wasn't gonna happen, get you past the excitement. But anyway, with her, she's the receptionist at the. clinic place he works at. So I was like, Oh, right. Okay. And then Jane's sister said he was absolutely stunning. And I was like, well, there you go. Then that's clearly going to be his hook up. But he didn't look at anybody else all night. Every time I turned round, he was just watching me. And I was like, so I want you to, I want you to find a moment where he looks at you. Just makes me smile. Now that he's looking at you, what can you know in this moment that he was thinking at that time? He's just not got eyes for anybody else. I know, but I want you to tune in. Just tune in. We've just spoken with celestial beings and so we've been brought to this moment in time because there's a thought transfer that he wants you to know. He knew he was going to marry me. He knew. When he looked at me, he knew I was going to be his wife. Does he tell you anything more about that? No, he's just got this smile on his face. He says, yeah, he's just like, you'll find out. That's it. That's all they're saying. Okay. All right. And so is there anything else in this scene that you are directed to look at or be part of? No. Just, they just wanted me to understand that because there was a part of me when I saw Philip that I just knew I had to get to know him. Okay. But there was also another part of me that was like, you can't do that. It's too forward. You have to wait for him. Okay. Yeah. So, okay. And the other thing here that I'm getting now is, and this is why I, I find these sessions so fascinating, but also so, I don't know if frustrating is the right word, but. They're a challenge as well for me because, like, they're just saying to me now, well, in the last scene you wanted to know more information. You wanted to know everything about the beautiful being, and you wanted more from the dad, and then now she's giving you everything she's ever felt about this man, and it's one of the happiest moments of her soul, and you're like, shut up, Trudy. Just what is, yeah. They're like, this is not a regression session, Katish, just let her babble because she's expressing how excited she is. And in the moment, I'm just, I'm, my brain is like ripped into two because I'm like, yeah, almost temporarily forgotten that this is a happiest moment of your soul because it's in this lifetime and because my brain is going. I've done a lot of sessions with the Trinity. I've never heard about a husband before. Like, you know and I'm like, so there must be a bigger spiritual message. And they're like, well, you asked us for the happiest moment of the soul. So we're giving it to you. So why do you need a bigger spiritual message? It's just so funny. It's all or nothing. Isn't it? Really? All or nothing. So yeah, sorry, I missed the point. But we, but I wasn't letting you miss the point because I was just going on. So they want me to acknowledge that I did know that yes, we, our life was going to be together. That's lovely. You can see my face going, bloody hell, I wish I had that. Did I roll, you would have. Yeah, and I'm just there in the room dancing and just that's, putting that distance, he's back in the corner. They're reminding me that he, from his point of view, when they thought transference was, there's a lot more to this, he did, he is the one. That's opened me up to the beginnings of the journey that I eventually went on some forty odd years later. Wow. I was instrumental in that, yeah. That's very interesting. Hmm. It was, I was a good Catholic girl, so obviously, you die, you go to heaven, or you go to hell, or you go to purgatory. That's about the sum total of what it was. side that I didn't even know existed. I mean, Did that make you happy at the time? Yeah. It confused me a lot. But when I think back on it now, it's just, yeah, it really makes me smile. And what they showed me is I was doing my A levels. So I would have been, I was in my last year of doing my A levels, so I would have been coming up to 16, 18 even. And we went on a school trip to Austria for a week. Now I sleepwalk and I talk in my sleep quite a lot. And I distinctly remember getting out of bed, going to the window when we were two floors up. So I've gone up to the window, open the window and I'm having a conversation. And then once I'm having the conversation, because we're in a dormitory, one of the girls wakes up and goes, Shruti! What are you doing? And I remember looking at her going, I'm talking to Philip. And she was like, go to bed. So I was like, all right, I've got to go now, Philip. And I remember shutting the window, turning around and getting into bed. But this happened, we were away for about five nights. This happened every night. Didn't think anything of it. Came back home, Philip met me at the, at Dover. Brought me, well they brought me to school. Philip met me at school and brought me home. And then about two weeks later he said, So are you going to tell me what happened in Austria? I was like, well, you know, it was just a bunch of girls. We went sightseeing and they taught me how to play solitaire. And, you know, we went and anything happen at night time? And I looked at him, he said, you know what I'm talking about? And that's when he said, I came to visit you. You opened the window. Your friend asked you what you were doing and that was like, so I wasn't dreaming and then he was like, no, I came to visit you for the five nights that you were away. That was the beginning of me understanding. It also shook my faith unbelievably, that it isn't just we're born, we're born, we die, we go to poetry and then go to heaven. And it just. It blew my mind and then it just expanded and all sorts of weird and wonderful things started happening. And then, then family members died, as you know, kind of hang out at mine. So yes. All right. So I think I'm getting the, the urge to, but before we go with that, that was also interesting because, And I think this is part of, I said to you prior to the session, I didn't sleep very well last night and I knew there was something else that I needed to get. And so one of the things that I did think about in the middle of the night, which now I understand why, this makes sense to me now is my son used to sleepwalk as a little boy. And particularly when he was away at his dad's house, which was at that time, an hour's drive. And he would sleepwalk out of the house and go out to the garage. And so, what I realized was that most likely he, cause he was looking for me, he'd be like, I need to go find mum. What are you doing? I'm talking to mum. So I've just had my own moment of realization. Because, he's, he's still at home. He's still young. And so a few nights I have woken up or I've been doing a meditation and the words that have come out, I burst into tears. And it's like, he still needs me because I have all these goals that I'm trying to do or wrestling with. And then so what it's done for me, my own extrapolation was that he's, he's He always set walk to find me wherever he was, even if he wasn't there, is that he needed my support and he still needs my support and I need to be in that mother role as a primary focus. And yes. Yes. I can validate that I must have done the same thing for him because at that moment, even though he had his father, he still needed me. And so I must have done a similar thing as Philip, but not being conscious. Yeah. But I've not been conscious about it until now. Yeah. So that's, that's interesting. Very interesting. It's just given me an insight into sleepwalking that I didn't realize before. Yeah. I'm going to take you back in time to that trip. just to go to the window so that you can see for yourself how it is that he could appear and talk to you through that window in his spiritual presence, because I think that's also part of the clue of your happiness and starting to understand a bit more about him. So let's take you back in time with the angels, back to Austria, I think you said it was, back to that dorm room, feeling very sleepy, laying down on the bed in the dorm room, going to bed for the night, Feeling your head on the pillow, feeling very tired and comfy, going to sleep, being in the dream state. Melon, let me know when you have the awareness that the essence of Phil is outside. It's tapping on the window, so I'm assuming that's what woke me because I didn't know that before. Okay, so be in the moment. Well he's not, he's on a ladder, but it's not, it's a, he's, it's what I would refer to as astral travelling. Hmm. So, yeah, but I'm so not scared. I'm just so pleased to see him and have this conversation with him. I don't know what we're talking about. I don't really think it's important. That's important. Just the fact that him being able to astral travel. I don't know whether it's the connection of us together that's woken me up. made that side of him because he's always been quite spiritual and he knew those, you know, mediums and things, people like that. But I think us being together woke, okay, has woken that side of him up because he has to show me that there is more to life than They're showing me a physical church, just a building, and just that whole blind faith that's, it's there for me to experience. If I can open my mind, I can go wherever. And it's that's the beginning that he just literally had to show me an egg tap, tap, tap away at that for me to be able to get to this point in my life. That's quite profound. And is there anything else that you know in this moment while he's astral traveling with you? And so, so I don't mean to keep prolonging it, but so the other thing that came to me quite profoundly, and you can see I got a bit emotional there, was That they're showing you the blessing, well for me, because we've had opposite, direct opposite experiences in this lifetime, and that's why I started to get emotional, because your father and you had a terrible relationship, my father and I had a magical relationship, you know, could, had its usual ups and downs, but, And I, was very distressed when he died and he died exactly at the same time as my marriage fell apart, which, you know, he's a nice bloke, but it was a disastrous combination because it was there as a karmic relationship. Yeah. So it's. Explored that. Yeah. Yeah. But for here, for you, your husband is. the easy fit, the predetermined destined fit to be the balance of the love that you need to heal from and deal with the physical, father that you had in this relationship. So it's like when they were talking to me in the other sessions, it's like, when you're going to go through a soul growth incarnation where you are experiencing different things and you've obviously got a big checklist as well that you brought in with you. Of course. We are providing you with the balm that soothes your soul. So your husband is the balm that soothes your soul for a masculine relationship that provides you with love, but he's also the spiritual growth access. So I just thought I'd bring that forward because there's a multifaceted reason why Phillips in your life, and it just helps you to understand that, I find that profoundly beautiful. Yeah, it does that. And the more I think about it, the. And it's, it's, it's done with such gentle, with such feminine energy that it's been very easy for me to do it. is, it's the, the, the tap, tap away. And then when I come to the realization that he already knows it's the look, okay, that kind of, you know, took you long enough to get that type of thing, but yes, it's, yes. So it's, it's very strange. So as much as, yeah, he's the, the healing for the masculine energy and the masculine love, he's also my spiritual development, the leader of where I'm going, or to show me that there is more. So yes, on, and that's why there is, I know there is more connection with him. It's not just this lifetime. There are so many connections from past lives that just intertwine that they've amassed in this lifetime. Well, at least I've come to the realization. So, but yes, it's yeah, lots of layers to our relationship. Yeah, but yeah, so I was just explaining that for the people who are listening, because yeah, relationships are much more than you think they are in the physical, but it's very hard for a human to get that. But here's an example, and, and, you know, you've seen my reaction to the, Oh, I wish I had that, but we have different soul contracts and different things we want to experience, but I can profoundly see the beauty in what, Philip provides for you. And yet I've never met him. It's moved me to sort of tears just to be able to appreciate that other level of functionality that he, not functionality, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. That is brought to your life. So well done, Phil. We love it. As I said, we've been in a lifetime before. But they're telling me I'm not ready for you to know yet, not yet they're telling me. So there's nothing else that we need to see in this scene while you're communicating? No, just I'm so pleased to see him. I really did miss him and I hadn't known him long. Really missed him. And it's nice to remember that I did miss him. Because I do take him for granted a lot. So it's nice to remember that. Right, we'll just soak in that feeling of happiness. Then when you're ready, you can go back into the bed, walk yourself back into the bed, and ask and lie down on that bed and go back to sleep. And then in the dream state, the angels will come and grab you or drift and float away to another moment in time that is important for you to see today or another moment yourself to relax. Yeah. I'm being shown a meditation that I went on and on this we were meeting our guides. And it's the exact same meditation, and there's lots of angels, which there was before. And this is where I met Saint Germain. Okay. So, there's obviously a reason why they're showing me this, isn't there? Okay. When I met Saint Germain, he had a little satchel. Okay. And he took out what I thought was an amethyst raw rock but it had striations that had all sorts of weird and wonderfuls in it and what he's saying to me which really makes me feel good is the rock I bought because then I was on a mission to find because he gave handed me this rock and said this is for you look after it literally a week later we had a rock and gem fair And I said, I will find what I'm looking for when I'm here. And he's telling me the rock I found, double thumbs up, is the rock he gave me. That's fascinating. Oh, so that's good to know. And they're reminding me the joy I find in just meditating, just taking myself off. They're reminding me. to do this because it brings me joy as of the now and then telling me to bring this back and do it more. Okay, great, perfect. They're saying it's time to go. Okay. They've all got up and walked off. I love it when they do that, they just get up and go. It's like, yeah, we're done. Yeah, I know, because I had a million questions and they're like, no, not today. I know I asked too many questions, so there we go. All right, see ya. So I guess somebody else is going to come. Next moment. Love remains where I am. I'm just going to enjoy a feeling that they've left behind the most amazing feeling of I haven't got the words. Not bliss, but just purity. I just Hmm. Just soak it in. Just sit there until it dissipates. We've got time. Okay, just let's see what happens there. My Akashic Guide, my lion, why are you, is here? Okay, well let's just follow him. Yeah, well, just, he just wants to sit. No, okay, we'll just sit with him. We'll just sit with him. He's like a big pussycat. He probably doesn't like me saying that, but he's just a big sub pussycat. When he's going, I think he just wanted to say hi. Mm. It's fine. He's going back now. Okay. Sometimes the happy moments are when people say hello, right? Or being said hello. I just noticed that as I looked, when we were talking about him being a big pussycat, As I looked over to you in the session, to the opposite side of where the pictures are, so that presumably is your right side. You had, someone was there. Yeah, they've been there the whole time. And I've only just noticed it. Yeah, it's very big energy there. And I notice it actually quite a lot. But I often tell myself, you know how you can, if you take a video of a TV, you see the static? Yes, that's, it's been there constantly and I've made this, it's not, it's not, yeah, it's not, and so it's nice of you to validate that for me because yeah, it's, it's, whoever, let's see, that's, it's on my right hand side, yeah, so that's that's my feminine, whoever it is has long, longish hair. I can see the outline of the dark hair comes to about here. Okay. All right. So that's interesting because that's not who I assumed it was and I don't know who it is, but thank you. I will look into that because that person or that energy I feel like is around a lot and I had assumed that when you said it was right hand side that it was hang on, I'm sorry. One side is Malachite and one side is my owl who looks like, called Snowy. She's, Snowy is the right, so Snowy usually sits on this side, which is that side, so I thought it was Snowy, but you're Okay, isn't it the goddess, is it Andromeda? Huh. That was the goddess that had the owl, was it Andromeda? Oh, could be. She's, as soon as you said owl, I mean, I could get the name wrong, so it's a goddess you have there. I'm just, as soon as you said owl, I heard Andromeda, which I know to be a goddess, but as I say. So, yeah. Interesting. Okay, cool. That's something for me to explore because, that's fascinating, actually, because I have to say. All, apart from this one queen, all of my guides have been masculine that I've paid attention to. So the interesting, because you've brought in the beautiful being at the start and then she was in there the whole session. Yeah. It's been flippant. I just made the assumption it was static until it was all like, you need to look because I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Cause I was about to pause it to say, isn't that interesting that I wasn't even thinking about that. How, Yeah. Yeah. Saint Germain came in and he dropped your energy back, like, to the ground, and then the iron came in and you went even deeper. Yeah. So they were a grounding balance for you even though they're in the sky. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, that'd be big, yeah. Yeah, just when I go to the Akasha kits. It's, it's busy for other people and yeah, and he does come in and I know he's always in the background there just making, to help me hold the space. So yeah, I just wanted a moment where it wasn't work related, it was just, you know. All right, well, so how about we just extend the invitation for anybody else that wishes to just have a moment to say hello, to pop in and just sit with you. And here again is me resisting the session ending because I found it so fascinating and I've looked at the clock and I'm like, it's only an hour, you know, like it's supposed to be two or three and forgetting the intense frequencies, frequencies we've done. Yeah. Oh, there's a big door shut. They've said no. Oh no. Okay. A big, big, big slam door. I'm like, okay. Okay. All right. People just. Katisha's not in control of this session, obviously. Step out of my normal work routine. Yep, rightio. Trudy's soul is in charge. Sorry. Okay. Well, what's next, Trudy? Time to go home. Time to go home. Okay. We still didn't get it closed door. Shut up, woman. Alright, that's it then. So when you're ready, you can just Just feel your body get heavier on the chair and feel your fingers and your toes and your head against the pillow and bring your awareness back into the room. Okay. So I will now formally stop there and say thank you, Trudy, and everybody for watching this season and namaste. Yeah. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.